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Old 09-23-2006, 05:59 PM
Magikist Magikist is offline
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Default Re: Possibly Interesting

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it is becuz he is showing down, not giving up.

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Really?

Because maybe why OP thought this hand might be interesting is because A) the "bluff call" on the flop w. KQ when he sometimes has 6 outs and will get a free river often against this type of opponent, and B) a possible river bluff (lead) aren't so bad as they originally appear?

Mainly focusing on B), any reasonably decent player recognizes that this action by the TAG is a defensive showdown move with a pocket pair. So, theoretically, if everyone knows that this opponent is calling a river bet 100% of the time, players are only value betting aces or high pocket pairs. And this pattern in my experience has seemed to hold true almost invariably. When I'm the preflop capper in this situation, I'm almost always beat when I call, and when I'm ahead my opponent almost always checks.

So - shouldn't hands like 99-22 start folding rivers like this? I have done it against opponents I consider "predictable" or "straightforward." I guess it just depends on the stupidity factor - is the opponent "stupid" enough to make a completely "hopeless" river bluff? Of course, this line of thinking by tight TAGs coupled with the fact that you need to be successful 20% of the time to show a profit makes this hopeless river bluff - and the flop call to get the river - look a lot more reasonable than at first glance.
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