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Old 09-21-2006, 06:08 PM
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If it would've been someone less respected on BG's seat playing super-tight short-stack poker we would be hearing comments like "what's he doing there" etc.

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I completely agree. I also think Elezra had a point when he complained about BG's tight style. I believe there is an unwritten rule in these types of games -- you need to give a little action if you want to be invited back. Guys like BG and DG were playing so tight that it was probably pretty frustrating for some of the other players PLUS it just doesn't make for very interesting TV.

They should beg Sammy to come back. He was by far the most entertaining player (if we discount Mike and Phil) over the first two seasons in my opinion.

* I'm not judging Barry's game; of course he can play as well as anyone. But it just doesn't make for very compelling TV, that's all.
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Old 09-21-2006, 06:15 PM
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What I would like to see on HSP season 3:

- More Gus Hansen! (his appearance on season 2 was much too brief)

- Microphone on Gus the next time he picks up on a cocktail waitress. If we can see the hole cards we should be able to hear the pick-up lines.

- No prop bets, it was interesting for a while but it eventually bogged the game down.

- New rule: there must be at least donkey per episode. The last few episodes were relatively boring in large part because of no one of the likes of Hellmuth, Matusow, the Shiek, or Zeidman.

- At least one episode without Daniel. Like him but we've had too much of a good thing.

All in all, though, still the best poker on TV by a mile.
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Old 09-22-2006, 05:06 AM
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It's funny how guys I thought were total douchebags like Antonio and Phil L. turned out to be not only way better poker players than I thought, but some of the cooler guys on poker tv.

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Yeah, their antics during tournaments really turned me off, and I used to think Antonio was a donk. But they seem to act different with a table full of pros. Antonio played really well and would have won big if he didn't get coolered a couple times. I have a different opinion of both of these guys after HSP.

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In a nutshell you've nicely summed up why we like HSP more than we do TV tourneys. In tourneys you can play and act like an a$s and the worst that can happen is that you are knocked out and lose your buy-in (and many of these guys are staked or won satellites). In HSP you are playing for real money - yours - so your game better be good, and if you try any of those antics you will end up getting someone pissed off at you and chances are he or she is a better player.
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Old 09-22-2006, 05:08 AM
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If it would've been someone less respected on BG's seat playing super-tight short-stack poker we would be hearing comments like "what's he doing there" etc.

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If he was less respected than Barry then sure, we would be saying that. BG has proven that he belongs there and he has every right to play tight. It's his money. There are different style and the best pro's know how to switch gears and more important when to do so.
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Old 09-22-2006, 10:28 AM
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If it would've been someone less respected on BG's seat playing super-tight short-stack poker we would be hearing comments like "what's he doing there" etc.

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If he was less respected than Barry then sure, we would be saying that. BG has proven that he belongs there and he has every right to play tight. It's his money. There are different style and the best pro's know how to switch gears and more important when to do so.

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And yet there were still multiple threads here like "Why is Barry playing short if he thinks he's a long term winner in this game?" and "Is Barry broke? Why doesn't he rebuy for more?" and the like.

So, if it were someone else in BG's seat it would have been WORSE, but there were still plenty of donkeys getting on his case here over the season.
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Old 09-22-2006, 12:27 PM
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Finally, cut out the props. They do nothing for the TV audience and distract Gabe Kaplan from the game.

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Old 09-22-2006, 06:47 PM
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So, if it were someone else in BG's seat it would have been WORSE, but there were still plenty of donkeys getting on his case here over the season.

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Remember all the hands don't get shown. One main difference between me and many of the other players is when I play junk, I raise with it because I detected weakness. Other players often call with junk. The producer told me he could have put on several hands with me forcing out the best hand preflop, but it would be redundant and boring.

Also, I played short because I didn't want to be a hypocrite. I always preach to people that the way to win at poker is by limiting your losses. I wanted to show that you don't have to panic and force the action just because you got unlucky. I got Aces beat in big pots in both seasons, but I still won.

I have rarely been called a tight player. I played tighter than normal because I always got full action on my good hands. If my opponents would have adjusted against me, I would have loosened up.

Another note. Eli wasn't criticizing me. He was just commenting how I played a short stack, just like in a tournament. Of course, this meant that I couldn't play as many speculative hands.

I don't intend to play tight or loose. I try to play right, and that is always dependent on how my opponents are playing.

Barry
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Old 09-22-2006, 07:16 PM
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Does anyone know the filming and broadcasting dates for HSP 3?
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Old 09-22-2006, 09:34 PM
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Does anyone know the filming and broadcasting dates for HSP 3?

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I heard that filming begins in October. Don't know about broadcast although I'd expect it no later than January.
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Old 09-22-2006, 09:36 PM
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So, if it were someone else in BG's seat it would have been WORSE, but there were still plenty of donkeys getting on his case here over the season.

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Remember all the hands don't get shown. One main difference between me and many of the other players is when I play junk, I raise with it because I detected weakness. Other players often call with junk. The producer told me he could have put on several hands with me forcing out the best hand preflop, but it would be redundant and boring.

Also, I played short because I didn't want to be a hypocrite. I always preach to people that the way to win at poker is by limiting your losses. I wanted to show that you don't have to panic and force the action just because you got unlucky. I got Aces beat in big pots in both seasons, but I still won.

I have rarely been called a tight player. I played tighter than normal because I always got full action on my good hands. If my opponents would have adjusted against me, I would have loosened up.

Another note. Eli wasn't criticizing me. He was just commenting how I played a short stack, just like in a tournament. Of course, this meant that I couldn't play as many speculative hands.

I don't intend to play tight or loose. I try to play right, and that is always dependent on how my opponents are playing.

Barry

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Good post Barry. So, based on your comment in paragraph 2 what did you think of Daniel's play this season?
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