Interesting Situation in my NFL Picks League

sp3ctr3 · #1 09-21-2006, 10:39 PM

I play in a 20-25 person per week NFL picks league. Each person attempts to pick all the winners for each game, no spread involved. It has come to my attention that one player is actually registered three times. He still pays for three "players", so I can not figure out if this creates an advantage for him or not.

Has anyone run into this before? Should I be concerned?

Thremp · #2 09-21-2006, 11:03 PM

Yes. Take his money and boot him.

sp3ctr3 · #3 09-21-2006, 11:16 PM

After speaking with the person running the league, he says that he is not concerned with the person playing multiple pick teams. How exactly could playing multiple teams help? It seems shady to me but I can not put my finger exactly how paying for extra teams could help. Please advise.

bigalt · #4 09-21-2006, 11:18 PM

seems to me to be the same thing as buying multiple bingo cards. it doesn't really put anyone at a disadvantage like at a poker table.

Freerollin` · #5 09-21-2006, 11:19 PM

If he's paid for three and it isn't against the rules, there's nothing wrong with it.

almostbusto · #6 09-21-2006, 11:25 PM

it definitely creates an advantage in a winner take all system. i am pretty sure it creates an advantage in any system but not 100%. if you want to ill type up some math to prove it but yes, it does create an advantage.

sp3ctr3 · #7 09-21-2006, 11:29 PM

It is winner take all. If you could show me the math, that would be greatly appreciated.

If I can show it creates an advantage, this will not be allowed in the league.

XXXNoahXXX · #8 09-21-2006, 11:32 PM

If it is winner take all then he definitely gets a big edge here and if this was not something that was known to people in the league either as an option for themselves or that it was going on, the guy should get his money back for two teams and stick to one.

Think about it, if I had 5 teams, I could stick same on the huge favorites since its simple win not spread, and then on the PK type games I could have a few different groupings.

For example:

1 v. 2 1 is 10 pt. favorite
3 v. 4 3 is a 2.5 pt. favorite
5 v. 6 5 is a 9 pt. favorite
7 v. 8 PK

He can basically have all/most his teams pick the big favorites, then on 3/4 and 7/8 game have different combos to assure one will be correct.

Simply not fair.

bigalt · #9 09-21-2006, 11:33 PM

it's interesting that you should say that, because i was just thinking the opposite.

Whether you're sticking to the oddsmakers' favorites or not, each person is making what they believe is the optimum choice on every game.

Obviously this guy isn't going to duplicate his picks on all of his accounts, so he's then deviating from what he thinks are the best picks, and therefore gambooling.

So i'm interested in what makes it an advantage.

bigalt · #10 09-21-2006, 11:38 PM

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If it is winner take all then he definitely gets a big edge here and if this was not something that was known to people in the league either as an option for themselves or that it was going on, the guy should get his money back for two teams and stick to one.

Think about it, if I had 5 teams, I could stick same on the huge favorites since its simple win not spread, and then on the PK type games I could have a few different groupings.

For example:

1 v. 2 1 is 10 pt. favorite
3 v. 4 3 is a 2.5 pt. favorite
5 v. 6 5 is a 9 pt. favorite
7 v. 8 PK

He can basically have all/most his teams pick the big favorites, then on 3/4 and 7/8 game have different combos to assure one will be correct.

Simply not fair.

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But if everyone else is also using the same method, basically on the same ground as him; it's not as though he gets to take his best result from each week and build from there-- each team stays separate.

If you just assume it comes down to 16 coinflips (one each week), all people have an equal possibility of getting the most heads, so his 3 entries would have bought him 3 times the chance.