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Old 01-26-2006, 09:05 PM
C.R.E.A.M. C.R.E.A.M. is offline
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Default Help me with these hands. I\'m a bonafide donk

Seriously, I don't know what's going on. My first 1000 SNGs at the 22s I had a 16% ROI and thought I was the [censored]. I figured by my next 1000, I'd be playing so good I'd be sitting at a 20% ROI. Well, over my latest 750 tourneys I'm running at 3% ROI, and my latest 300 has me at -3% ROI! I can't figure out what is happening to my play. I think one of my big leaks might be donking off my stack with hands like TPTK and not listening to people when they tell me they have me beat. Ok, enough ranting, here's some hands I probably donked up that I'd like comments on:

1. I'm guessing my flop attempt to buy the pot is terrible. Is PF raise terrible too? But I had no idea what this guy has buy the way he called and made weird 1/5 pot size bets.

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t785)
UTG+1 (t810)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t65)
MP3 (t815)
CO+1 (t695)
Hero (t1605)
Button (t840)
SB (t785)
BB (t800)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls t15, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t60</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, UTG calls t45

Flop: (t145) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t100</font>, UTG calls t100

Turn: (t345) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets t70</font>, Hero calls t70

River: (t485) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets t125</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

2. I feel like I'm constantly getting stacked with top pair, top kicker, or top pair good kicker. Constantly. If I'm not willing to get a lot of chips in with it though, isn't it just a glorified 72o?

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1185)
UTG+1 (t425)
MP1 (t630)
CO (t3200)
Hero (t755)
SB (t1075)
BB (t730)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t95</font>, SB calls t80, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t220) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t175</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t950 (All-in)</font>, Hero calls t485 (All-in)

Turn: (t1860) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)


River: (t1860) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

3. Am I weak-tight or is letting go of AA to a dangerous looking flop to such a small bet correct?

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t800)
Hero (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t990)
MP3 (t800)
CO+1 (t755)
CO (t800)
Button (t790)
SB (t785)
BB (t680)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t60</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t60, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO+1 folds</font>, CO calls t60, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t205) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t125</font>, MP2 calls t125, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>

Turn: (t455) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets t100</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>
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Old 01-26-2006, 09:12 PM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: Help me with these hands. I\'m a bonafide donk

Hand one I limp preflop. Then I don't put any more money in the pot since I didn't hit.

Hand two can go both ways, but I can definitly find a fold here some times. Small donkbet inviting a raise and then the push. That is the favourite donkline for monster. Then again the donk might think KQ is a monster here.

Hand three.....uh what is going on here. Bet the turn.
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Old 01-26-2006, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: Help me with these hands. I\'m a bonafide donk

1 - I fold pf. Given your line, I don't mind the flop bet, but his call means your dead. Fold to his turn bet. You have four outs.

2 - NH

3 - Good PF raise. Good flop bet. Turn you are in trouble. Sucks, but I play it like you did and hope to get him all in PF with my AA next time.

oh and turn off the chat
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Old 01-27-2006, 11:49 AM
C.R.E.A.M. C.R.E.A.M. is offline
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Default Re: Help me with these hands. I\'m a bonafide donk

Ok so the 2 replies for these hands so far have some disagreements for some of the plays. Anyone else want to chime in?
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Old 01-27-2006, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: Help me with these hands. I\'m a bonafide donk

Hand 1 I'd just fold PF. I'll have position on UTG, but I don't want to be involved in pots with KQo in level 1.
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Old 01-27-2006, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: Help me with these hands. I\'m a bonafide donk

Hand 1: KQo isn't exactly a hand you want to be raising with after a limper. Admittedly it's one of my weak spots, too, and it's something I would correct. Limping is best here.

Hand 2: I play it the same way. You'll see KJ/KQ enough of the time here. I don't give anyone at the $22s credit.

Hand 3: You cannot fold that. QQ will steal this pot from you time and time again.
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Old 01-27-2006, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Help me with these hands. I\'m a bonafide donk

Hand 1: I see why you hung on hoping to hit the T and it's probably something I would do, so...

Hand 2: I'm smelling three of a kind here with that min raise of villians, but I still think you played it the best you could.

Hand 3: I'm not sure what you're putting villian on with this hand, Jx? Flush? I would have reraised the turn and hoped a diamond didn't fall on the river.

Take this advice for what it's worth, which by all accounts isn't much.
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Old 01-27-2006, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Help me with these hands. I\'m a bonafide donk

Hand 1

I would call or fold here. Probably call because I have position. I'm not raising with this hand at this early in the game, however. On the flop I check behind and fold the turn to a bet.

Hand 2

I play this the same PF. Barring a read, I fold to the push. A lot of people argue for a call by asserting that you'll see hands like A-10,KQ, or a straight draw often enough to make it +EV. Based on my experience at this level, though, I don't see many players pushing over raises with anything but premium hands. Their CALLING requirements are ridiculously loose, but pushing? Nah. I just don't see it. I think you're usually behind here.

Hand 3

PF, I'm doing the same. I bet the pot on the flop. Probably fold the turn as you played it.

My 2cents.
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