200-400 Hand.

[binions]

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Make a flush (9/47)*(8/46) ~ 3.3%
Improve to OESD and make the nuts (4/47)*(8/46) ~ 1.5%
Improve to GSSD and make the nuts (8/47)*(4/46) ~ 1.5%

3.3% + 1.5% + 1.5% ~ 6.3%

You have to be good $200/$3300 ~ 6.1%

Call

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Backdoor flush is 10/47 * 9/46 or 4.16%

[Tommy Angelo]

"Easy call, easy fold, close call or close fold?"

Are those the only choices?

Okay I'll be the only one crazy enough to consider a fake punt on third down. I checkraise the flop. The button grudgingly calls with his AJ or AK. The other guy calls with dust. The turn pairs the board. Check, bet, fold, fold, touchdown.

[mike l.]

talking to gabe about this the other day (the c/r this flop idea). i said there becomes a point where if this is such an "easy call" then a c/r should at least be considered.

after gabe crunched some numbers on his cell phone calculator he narrowed it down to very close and im still one of the only folders.

[TomBrooks]

Thin call.

[glen]

I think your low end is too low. . .22, 33, 44, Ax. . .K7, hijack?

[freewheeler]

[ QUOTE ]
Okay I'll be the only one crazy enough to consider a fake punt on third down.

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Dude, this has to be one of the worst metaphors ever.

[Piers]

Close call. Your getting about 15-1, which suggests you can play a three outer.

You have a dodgy overcard, Runner runner flush draw, Runner runner straight draw Looks about three outs to me.

So close call.

[LarsVegas]

I agree upon closer reflection that my estimated opening range *for the typical player in this game* should be looser than this.

To include hands I would open myself from this position, QTs+, JTs, T9s and usually all worse suited aces below A8 too.

However, I still disagree with the range you outline as a standard opening hijack range for a "typical high stakes player", and lean more towards mine with a few additions, mainly amongst suited hands.

lars

[binions]

[ QUOTE ]
"Easy call, easy fold, close call or close fold?"

Are those the only choices?

Okay I'll be the only one crazy enough to consider a fake punt on third down. I checkraise the flop. The button grudgingly calls with his AJ or AK. The other guy calls with dust. The turn pairs the board. Check, bet, fold, fold, touchdown.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you wanted to "protect" your hand and perhaps get the CO+1 to fold a King perhaps making your K live, you would lead the flop into the button, hoping the button raises and the CO+1 folds.

Still, leading into the button or check-raising to set up a turn bluff both seem like spew. You don't have much to protect, and you don't have much chance to get both to fold on the turn, given the pot size. Probably have to show down a winner 95% of the time.

[dragon14]

What I like about this post is that is has an unusally high viewing rate purely because Sklansky wrote it.

For some reason Sklansky never comes back to give his thoughts on the hand.