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#1
09-17-2006, 04:08 AM
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$22 Tough call - Ax with flush draw
Villian is 72%vp and 20%pf
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com CO (t7145) Button (t1510) SB (t845) Hero (t4000) Preflop: Hero is in BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] CO calls t200, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, Hero checks Flop: (t500) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets t200</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to t6800</font>, Hero ????? He's very LAG and has been extremely lucky early, I've doubled through him twice at this point after taking a nasty beat against another player. Let me guess, raise PF? :P -Dirk 
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#2
09-17-2006, 04:30 AM
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Re: $22 Tough call - Ax with flush draw
That sucks, and I still call, given read.
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#3
09-17-2006, 04:58 AM
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Re: $22 Tough call - Ax with flush draw
Some LAGs/maniacs are also slowplayer and the preflop stats only tells us that hes a donk but in this case I think you are drawing to 12 outs. I call here in the heat of the battle but its a mistake.
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#5
09-17-2006, 02:55 PM
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Re: $22 Tough call - Ax with flush draw
Check-raising sucks imo. Bloating the pot OOP against the guy who can bust you. LEad the flop. As played no way I call that allin with the two shorties around. Pf is fine.
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#7
09-17-2006, 03:14 PM
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Re: $22 Tough call - Ax with flush draw
Hero needs to be winning 72% of the time here for this to be breakeven $EV. I doubt you are winning 72% unless he's pulling this with any mid pair, any A, any smaller flush draw and a lot of other assorted junk.
I think you have to fold.
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#8
09-17-2006, 03:46 PM
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Re: $22 Tough call - Ax with flush draw
From what hero has said about the player I think 72% is very realistic. I'd probably call here.
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#10
09-17-2006, 04:57 PM
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Re: $22 Tough call - Ax with flush draw
Not that it really effects the discussion at all but for the curious, he pushed with 26o (no hearts) and I stacked him, but the hand was really bugging me like a split second after I called him, given that even if I was ahead, he could have outdrawn me and ended my run at the money, which would have sucked since the shorties were almost out anyway. However, having those chips really put me into nice position to take 1st. Thus why I agonized over it.
I'm trying to reign in my calling discipline on the bubble and was thinking this may be one of my many leaks. I tend to make too many coinflippish calls on the bubble, when instead I should be the aggressor and not the caller. Put that decision on someone else, right? This guys play and chipstack really screwed up my bubble game, though. He'd call with damn near anything it seemed, even despite my 3% pfr stats and never losing a showdown image. I rely a lot on FE in these situations and it freaks me out when people don't do what I want them to do :P. The check raise was bad, I agree. Hindsight, and all that. There really is no reason to get fancy. I feel like I still have a long way to go, thanks again for the replies. One step at a time, right? Cheers, -Dirk
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