Party Poker RND shuffling

[Dadswell]

Just checking, but is this a party is rigged post?

[tomtemor]

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Just checking, but is this a party is rigged post?

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More of a Party's random number generator sucks.

[ImpulsiveMe]

I dont want to comment on all so one post.

As long people are winning, and know what would give them an advantage (if any), they wont discuss any of this or just flame.

Having said that, I am an overall winner but I am also a concerned winner. I rarely have a losing month over the last 3 years. I am not mentioning this to brag just to let you know I am not a sore loser. If you play that many hands, like I do, the things you remember best are the bad beats. That is why we all play with trackers, to analyse our hands. The stats dont lie but the interpretation can be wrong. I can post the stats but then people start flaming them. How bad a player I am, etc.. etc..

I was just hoping that other people also conducted a thorough analysis and looked at other factors that could determine the outcome of a hand.

Just remember that there is no official body controlling these online gambling sites. It is always in these site´s best interest to have action at the table. They can do this by keep the weaker player at the tables as long as possible, determine the cards on the board (i.c.w. the hand) the determine the rake generated, so the more action, the better. By favouring all-in, raises, etc.
I am not saying this happens but it could. Just to mention factors that can be used to analyse your stats.

Now why would I write a post about it when I am winning money at it? Just one reason really, I want to know how random and unbiassed the pokersites are. Maybe I am not as good as I think I am. Maybe I just know how to get a small advantage, without realising it.

[scorer]

Impulsiveme, you have very few posts. Always a concern on this board and your talking in circles. I think its your intention, to have people wondering what in the world you are stating. If you care to elaborate then do so. Otherwise, why make a post that divulges no information.

[jimpo]

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Just checking, but is this a party is rigged post?

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More of a Party's random number generator sucks.

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What's the difference?

[ZenMusician]

It's been a while since I've had Burger King or any other
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more energy.

-ZEN

[Shandrax]

I don't see the point of making ridulous remarks on this topic. If the initial poster did some statistical analysis to prove that Party "random" shuffles don't produce the expected results, then it is an alarming result and not funny in any way.

[disjunction]

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500 000 is enough to prove a random generator to be wrong huh?

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Easily, if you are interpreting the results subjectively.

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Huh???? Not sure if you are attacking my post or just mocking the OP.

If I play 500,000 hands, and I get dealt AA exactly x times, I can tell you exactly how confident I am that the results came from a random shuffle* . If I got dealt AA 0 times, I would be pretty confident that the shuffle wasn't random. If I were dealt it 2262 times, I naturally wouldn't have any particular reason to be suspicious. If I were dealt it 2,000 times, I'd have to run the math, but off the top of my head I'm pretty sure that would be suspicious.

I'm not sure why "objective" needs a FYP into "subjective".



*(to be more accurate, I can compare the hypotheses of a specific nonrandom shuffle to a random one)

[benfranklin]

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I don't see the point of making ridulous remarks on this topic. If the initial poster did some statistical analysis to prove that Party "random" shuffles don't produce the expected results, then it is an alarming result and not funny in any way.

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What's funny in every way is posters who report that "random" shuffles don't produce the expected results without doing credible statistical analysis.

[MelchyBeau]

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Just checking, but is this a party is rigged post?



More of a Party's random number generator sucks.



What's the difference?

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I think one is an intentional thing, another is a laziness thing.

The Bellagio poker room is rigged!