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Old 09-08-2006, 10:48 PM
Jive Dadson Jive Dadson is offline
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (9/8) (5-5 NL)

I wish I could answer your question Bart, but I can't. I had many pages of tables memorized for my baseline strategy. I have forgotten it all, lost the tables, and loaned out the book I based the tables on to someone who will probably never return it.

But of course the answer would depend on the stack sizes, the size of the pot, and prior action.
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:51 PM
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Hey all. I have only watched for a short bit, as I am heading out to dinner, but is Pajama-boy the worse fing player ever? There is no hand he does not limp or smooth call a raise with out of position!

Have a good evening all.

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Once again, BDub has an Avitar that is hypnotizing. I have temporarily forgotten all I knew about poker while watching her move.

Thanks BDub!
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:51 PM
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My point is Bart to be convinced that his play was OK there I'd want to see ANOTHER decent play from him before I'll give him the benfit of the doubt on that river bluff.
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:54 PM
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Noel Furlong?
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:55 PM
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Garo's wearing his lucky shirt...I hope. And if Dave wants to talk about loose cannons...Garo looks like a wild man.
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (9/8) (5-5 NL)

The sting is best poker movie...paul newman rocks.

cheers
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (9/8) (5-5 NL)

Oh one more thing. There is no "right play" in a vacuum. What I developed was an approximate optimal strategy. All the plays have to fit together. It's based on game theory, which is not the same thing as simple probabilities.

In the situation you give, the all-in raise before the draw, here's how you figure it:

You enumerate all the "real" hands you would have played as the hand has gone so far. You then calculate the odds the play is laying the potential bluffer. You call with the top fraction of your possible hands that makes the opponent's EV for a bluff exactly zero.

I hope that made sense.

Both Barry Greenstien and Bart's hero the other night have hinted at this kind of stuff, but they are not too keen on letting the cat out of the bag.
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:57 PM
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I hate to be so unoriginal but the best poker movie, IMO is Rounders...it's one of the only ones that is at all legitimate.

Shade has some sick card tricks at the beginning, but it's possibly the most disgusting portrayal of the poker world I've ever seen.
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:58 PM
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Best Poker Movie
tie The Cinnci Kid & Rounders

Worst Poker Movie
The Big Blind
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:00 PM
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If there has ever been a great poker movie, I never heard of it. Cincinatti Kid was very good until they ruined it with that ridiculous heads up match. Not only was the last hand absurd, I think I remember that they played the game without antes. No one would ever bring it in without the nuts. Then his opponent would fold.
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