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Old 09-07-2006, 09:33 AM
Bakes Bakes is offline
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The US is retarded.

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The US is HELLA [censored] RETARDED!

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Old 09-07-2006, 09:51 AM
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Pokerstar's policy of keeping your cash segregated with Royal Bank of Scotland makes me feel like its the only site I want to keep my cash with whilst all this litigation continues.


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FYI, Royal Bank of Scotland rolled over on the last company the DOJ came after. A company called Soulbury, which the DOJ alleges was related to online gaming had their funds confiscated with the help of the Royal Bank of Scotland.

How? Through their corresponding bank in NY. The DOJ took the money from RBS's account at the NY bank and told them if they wanted it they could go get it from Soulbury, which they did. Instead of standing up and saying you can't do that, RBS politely asked which account shall we debit? It's all documented.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: Paradise Poker chairman arrested in US

It should be kept in mind that it is the sports betting sites that are the main targets of this and why that guy was detained, not because of poker related subsidiaries. Sports betting is more clearly illegal under the wire act whereas poker is not (though DOJ does consider it so but just doesn't have certainty as with sports betting). So as long as you are playing on a site that is only poker or poker/casino and doesn't have a sports book associated with same, then for now unless the online gambling bill passes, you should be safe and your funds would be OK.

As for paradise, if the sports book that owns them ceases operations as did the other company, then you should get your funds eventually, but not right away. However if there is a run on a bank, you don't want to be last in line.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:30 AM
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I try and stick by this country (US) as much as I possibly can but I find it so hard to believe there aren't more important issues out there for the government to be concerned about.

~ shakes head in disgust
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:30 AM
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Just to play it safe I withdrew from Paradise a few hours ago. Its still being processed.....funds haven't made it to netteller yet. Will let you know if there is any difficulty.

It was time to withdraw anywhere in preparation for there next reload bonus....lol. What sucks is I will probably be afraid to make a large depo on the enxt reload now.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Paradise Poker chairman arrested in US

Anyone have any opinions on how this arrest would affect Bodog or any of the Crypto sights? Since the crypto sites specifically state that US players cannot bet in the sports book, do you think they are safe?
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:56 AM
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do you think they are safe?

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No one is safe, ALL YOUR CEOS ARE BELONG TO US.

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Old 09-07-2006, 11:56 AM
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That means they got a list, surveil who's traveling, abusing war on terror intelligence...

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Well of course they are. Nobody who is paying the slightest bit of attention expected them to do otherwise.

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Obviously I don't agree with arresting the guy - but this isn't using "war on terror intelligence." People were arrested in this fashion before 9/11 and there is no reason that would change.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:07 PM
Busted_Flat Busted_Flat is offline
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Default Re: Paradise Poker chairman arrested in US

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Obviously I don't agree with arresting the guy - but this isn't using "war on terror intelligence." People were arrested in this fashion before 9/11 and there is no reason that would change.

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According to press reports after David Carruthers was arrested, U.S. authorities used an anti-terror agreement with the EU that provides airline manifests that can be screened for potential terrorists to identify Mr. Carruthers as a passenger on a U.S. bound flight. Apparently that is what happened here as well.

In previous news reports on the Carruthers case, U.S. authorities also indicated that a recent anti-terror extradition treaty with the UK could be used to charge gaming execs in abstentia and then demand their extradition to the U.S.

The prosecutor in the Carruthers case also said that she believed the large unregulated amount of cash flowing out of the U.S. to gaming sites was being used by terrorists to plan attacks on the U.S.

Very clearly the crackdown on internet gambling is considered by the U.S. government to be part of the War on Terror.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:09 PM
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God Bless America.
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