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Old 09-01-2006, 05:06 PM
CrazyIrishman CrazyIrishman is offline
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Default \"What do you mean I can\'t raise? This is no limit holdem!\"

Playing 1/2 nl at my usual room last night while this hand comes up.
UTG+1 raises to 10, MP1 raises to 30. MP3 goes all in for 42, HJ calls 42, CO wants to go all in. UTG+1 says he can only call or fold and calls over the floor and the floor makes the ruling, whats the correct call here folks?
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Old 09-01-2006, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: \"What do you mean I can\'t raise? This is no limit holdem!\"

Of course he can raise....
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Old 09-01-2006, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: \"What do you mean I can\'t raise? This is no limit holdem!\"

Already discussed. Oh, just this week...

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Old 09-01-2006, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: \"What do you mean I can\'t raise? This is no limit holdem!\"

diff casinos have diff rules but generally in NL if a person moves all in and has an amount equal to or over the last bet/raise, the next to act can re-raise.

if you go by this model, the $42 all in is only $12 over the $30 bet ($20 raise of $10) which is not equal to or over the last raise therefore the $42 allin can only be called.

some casinos adopt the 1/2 bet minimum criteria for raising in NL games but that is usually reserved for limit holdem.
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Old 09-01-2006, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: \"What do you mean I can\'t raise? This is no limit holdem!\"

The CO hadn't yet acted, so the 1/2 bet or full bet criteria to reopen betting is irrelevent.

Edit to actually answer the OP's question: The CO can fold, call, or raise.
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Old 09-01-2006, 05:27 PM
DeeMo DeeMo is offline
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Default Re: \"What do you mean I can\'t raise? This is no limit holdem!\"

you're right...

<--didn't read the post carefully
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Old 09-01-2006, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: \"What do you mean I can\'t raise? This is no limit holdem!\"

It depends if it's a full moon or not.
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Old 09-01-2006, 05:49 PM
CrazyIrishman CrazyIrishman is offline
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Default Re: \"What do you mean I can\'t raise? This is no limit holdem!\"

Floor ruled that he can't raise all in and I was upset with that ruling for obvious reasons.
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Old 09-01-2006, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: \"What do you mean I can\'t raise? This is no limit holdem!\"

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Floor ruled that he can't raise all in and I was upset with that ruling for obvious reasons.

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Where is this so i can never play there?
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: \"What do you mean I can\'t raise? This is no limit holdem!\"

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Floor ruled that he can't raise all in and I was upset with that ruling for obvious reasons.

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Absolutely insane and completely indefensible. OF COURSE you can raise. Kick the floor in the nuts.

ok...if they have a 3 raises / 4 bets cap rule, it's slightly defensible. But since the last $12 bump wasn't a full raise, I don't think it counts.
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