$11r - JJ w/ 13 BB's

Steelerman · #1 08-15-2006, 10:09 AM

PartyPoker $11 Regular Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t890)
Hero (t1310)
MP1 (t7585)
CO (t1350)
Button (t3180)
SB (t2350)
BB (t3335)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls t100, Hero?

Normally I'd pop this to 350-400 or even limp behind in some situations. Anybody just like the push here given my stack?

peek-a-boo · #2 08-15-2006, 10:11 AM

Positively push. Raising less than AI in this early of a position, with this many behind is not good.

mlagoo · #3 08-15-2006, 10:14 AM

meh i dont mind raising to 400. you need to get a stack at some point, so why not get a caller or two. i'm almost always getting it in on the flop though, unless some guy like pushes an ace high flop before i can act.

willbb99 · #4 08-15-2006, 10:47 AM

Ugh. I hate raising for 1/3 my stack here. If you're getting your money in w/ almost any flop why not just push in the first place?

Steelerman · #5 08-15-2006, 10:54 AM

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I guess the thought there would be to try to make a little money with the hand by getting a PF caller or two, then taking it down with a flop push.

willbb99 · #6 08-15-2006, 10:59 AM

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Ugh. I hate raising for 1/3 my stack here. If you're getting your money in w/ almost any flop why not just push in the first place?

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I guess the thought there would be to try to make a little money with the hand by getting a PF caller or two, then taking it down with a flop push.

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I just don't think this is the place for a stop and go. Are you pushing every flop? Every flop w/out an ace? Every flop w/ out an overcard? You put yourself in a tricky situation here w/ this raise. Would you push in a later position after a couple of limpers?

Pudge714 · #7 08-15-2006, 11:00 AM

Push, but it doesn't really matter.

Steelerman · #8 08-15-2006, 11:02 AM

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Ugh. I hate raising for 1/3 my stack here. If you're getting your money in w/ almost any flop why not just push in the first place?

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I just don't think this is the place for a stop and go. Are you pushing every flop? Every flop w/out an ace? Every flop w/ out an overcard? You put yourself in a tricky situation here w/ this raise. Would you push in a later position after a couple of limpers?

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Willbb...I'm not saying this is how I play it here. Just pointing out why that play could be made.

Bona · #9 08-15-2006, 11:32 AM

My point of view, right or wrong, is that JJ is very vulnerable and you should push to reduce the number of probable callers. Preferably HU.

mlagoo · #10 08-15-2006, 11:48 AM

btw with 11xBB i think a push is pretty much standard, and i'd push 88 here with 13xBB, but i just think JJ is strong enough to make a standard raise. of course, this type of thinking would make me exploitable if i played at a level where anyone paid attention -- luckily (or unluckily, viewed in a different light), i don't.