i quit...for now.

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i can't take it. i'm done. down hundreds in days. haven't caught a decent f'in hand in days, haven't had so much as high pair, i've only been able to beat the worst fish on the planet. Full Tilt seems to be filled with good players...has anyone else had that experiece there?

[XmasXmas]

move down and to another site?

[TitanFan]

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down hundreds in days. haven't caught a decent f'in hand in days, haven't had so much as high pair

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You know I have been down several hundred dollars for a while and I seriously considered quitting. However, these past few months I have learned so much that I am now really optimistic about my game in spite of my aweful results. I may not even be a break even player yet, but I can see that with enough study and practice I can become a winning player. If you are serious about playing poker, I highly recommend finding a poker coach to accelerate the learning process as much as possible. Maybe take a break from playing and just read hands here online and read books. Learning should be priority #1.

[LimpyMcGee]

Are you being honest about your play? Or is it really just a bad run of cards? Or, could it be a combination of the two? Most popular hold'em texts, including SSHE, recommend that you divorce your results from your actions. Are you doing this? If money is becoming a factor in your decision-making, you may want to play micros while you improve your play. You can become a better player in a pretty low stress situation.

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yeah, i think that these are all good recommendations. I think that i have a pride problem with moving to the micros but I don't really want to quit. I would consider highering a coach but I would not know who to contact and what sort of credibility they have. I am definitely results oriented and the bad run of cards has injured my game significantly. I am reading SSHE which is great and helping me to understand elements of the game that I did not really coinsider as much before so I hope that I can genuinely improve with the right education. I think that moving down and backing off will be good suggestions.

[SlyGuy]

If you find a good coach let me know [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[akebono]

If losing hundreds in days bother you, then you're probably playing too high.

That said, I would say Full Tilt is bit tougher than most sites. You should definitely be at the fishponds over at Party or Paradise.

Taking a break is probably a good idea. Read and study, but don't play. Then take a week and don't read, study, or play. Return fresh and play 10,000 hands or so and review your play. Make your return at the micro's and then step up from there.

[Bill C]

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down hundreds in days. haven't caught a decent f'in hand in days, haven't had so much as high pair

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You know I have been down several hundred dollars for a while and I seriously considered quitting. However, these past few months I have learned so much that I am now really optimistic about my game in spite of my aweful results. I may not even be a break even player yet, but I can see that with enough study and practice I can become a winning player. If you are serious about playing poker, I highly recommend finding a poker coach to accelerate the learning process as much as possible. Maybe take a break from playing and just read hands here online and read books. Learning should be priority #1.

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I think this is really good advice. If you like poker, you have to look beyond what's happening now and realize that if you continue to read, learn and apply it, "there'll be other days" down the line, when you'll know more and play better. It's a process. Everybody, even the best guys who play for huge money, are constantly learning new things about poker and their own game.

It can be depressing, especially when just starting out, to go through periods of time where you are "card dead," and it is tempting to think it's only you to whom that happens. But the game is random, and it happens to us all. A thing to do when it happens is to use that time well, watching other players and noting what they are doing. Pick the guy you think is the best on that table and watch everything he does, noting what he plays, raises, calls with, etc, and make some notes. It is a good habit, and will help you develop the ability to read hands and players.

I have seen other posts of yours, and you seem like a bright guy. If you hang in there, you should be OK. And don't be silly about not dropping down to a level where you can manage without strain. If you aren't winning, you want to play at the lowest level and gradually work your way up. You have to respect your own play and your own money. Regard it as "tuition" for now, because the making money is going to come later whn you are more experienced and better.
For now, hang in and work on your game. Read and re-read SSHE, TOP and HEFAP. I can't begin to guess how many times I have read and referred to each of those books!

Just my $.02 worth...

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[shark6]

Don't quite just because you're down a couple hundred. You need a better reason than that. (Assuming your bankroll is still above 250BB for your limit)

I've been playing at Full Tilt the last month or so. The players there are generally tougher than at most sites. I see way more turn raises and check/raises and much less just calling down and donk bets than any other site. An average table would have just 2 guys who are 30%+ VPIP and there are very few maniacs. Table position is critical there because you need to get on the left of the bad players. Also, it's hard to switch tables to a better one because they only have 3-5 2/4 tables going at any one time. If the waiting list is short, I leave the table and try to get back on in better relative position to the weak players.

If you can turn a small profit playing you're doing ok at FT. Throw in bonus and the unmentionable and you'll be making just as much as you would at Party without either of those.

My suggestion would be to take a short break to relieve the stress of the downswing and play at one of the weaker sites like the Action Poker Network or iPoker Network for a while.

[ncboiler]

God's speed.