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Old 07-29-2006, 02:52 AM
ShakeZula06 ShakeZula06 is offline
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Default Re: Muddy waters

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....you know, Dynasty,

It is exactly this kind of post that encourages the further polarization surrounding this issue.

Is it too much to ask you to be constructively pro-active without resorting to ad hominem attacks?


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I think [censored] needs to start banning people for calling things ad hominem when they're not. It's getting incredibly annoying.

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Oh gee.....

Calling for a ban, are we?

Appeal to authority when one cannot bring forward any kind of logical counterpoint?


Pray tell me, where did I err in calling Dynasty's personal attack 'ad hominem'.

Go home, sonny boy. In a battle of wits, you are unarmed.

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Haha you got that one wrong too, what I said was not an appeal to authority. Cunsult wilkipedia-

for ad hominem-An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Dynasty was not claiming Cyrus was wrong because of his character. he pretty much told him to quit lying, which he may or may not be doing, either way it is not an ad hominem attack.

For appeal to authority-
The first form of the appeal to authority is when a person presenting a position on a subject mentions some authority who also holds that position, but who is not actually an authority in that area. For instance, the statement "Arthur C. Clarke recently released a report showing it is necessary to floss three times daily" should not convince many people of anything about flossing, as Arthur C. Clarke is not a known expert on dental hygiene. Much advertising relies on this logical fallacy in the form of endorsements and sponsorships.

The second form, citing a person who actually is an authority in the relevant field, carries more weight in that the authority is more likely to be correct. However the possibility of a mistake remains.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority

I have said nothing similar to either of the two forms. This is why I volunteered to write up a logic faq, so I didn't have to explain why you were wrong every time.

As for calling for a ban, it's called a joke. Try turning on your sarcasm detector.

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Go home, sonny boy. In a battle of wits, you are unarmed.


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How's your foot taste? Come back when you know the terms you're using, or can out-debate an 18 year old.
 


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