Two Overpair hands

Supesimmo · #1 07-26-2006, 11:02 AM

What would you do in the situations highlighted?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($7.62)
MP3 ($22.80)
CO ($3.02)
Button ($15.40)
SB ($6.70)
Hero ($40.80)
UTG ($36.92)
UTG+1 ($18.44)
UTG+2 ($27.70)
MP1 ($33.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
3 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP3 raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $1.25.

Flop: ($4.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP3 raises to $10, Hero ???

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($7.62)
UTG+1 ($43.70)
UTG+2 ($9.32)
MP1 ($12.13)
MP2 ($6.35)
Hero ($17.90)
CO ($34.34)
Button ($17.94)
SB ($27.80)
BB ($32.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
5 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, Button calls $2, BB calls $2.

Turn: ($9.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero ???

Also, please don't mention how I underbet the flop, its just something new I was trying out today which I won't be trying out again

CappyAA · #2 07-26-2006, 11:04 AM

Hand 1 - I fold. Too many draws on that board, and mostly you are SA/WB.

Hand 2 - There is no reason to think the turn helped BB or button too much. You have to bet to protect your hand. I'd bet about 3/4 pot here.

ama0330 · #3 07-26-2006, 12:15 PM

Fold the first hand. Put yourself in villains position and ask what you would be raising that much with.

3/4 pot for value on the second hand, fold to a re-raise.

Corbishley84 · #4 07-26-2006, 12:22 PM

Its tough. You seem to think villian has you beat. I would think flush draw or maybe Js or 9s. He seems weak to me. Call raise and see what the turn brings. Then reevaluate.

CappyAA · #5 07-26-2006, 12:32 PM

Calling to reevaluate in hand 1 is spewing. There are 28 cards in the deck I don't want to see on the turn (4 aces, 4 kings, 4 jacks, 3 tens, 4 nines, the heart seven, 4 sixes, and the 5, 4, 3, and 2 of hearts.) That is way more than half the deck. And considering we don't even have the Qh as a redraw, I'm just not happy about this. The flop sucks, there is such a wide variety of hands we could be facing, and we're OOP. Drop this one like a bad habit and don't think twice about it.

Supesimmo · #6 07-26-2006, 01:56 PM

Hand one looked like push or fold to me, i folded-I thought the only hand I was really beating was JJ