TPTK sandwiched between aggressors

[James.]

nice post TPH. i agree.

[Haupt_234]

I agree with TPH on a flop fold.

Haupt_234

[XmasXmas]

rant ahead. skip if you want.

i believe it is very possible for you to respond w/o commenting on the pf action. i do own sshe and have read through it several times. the reason why i said please don't comment on pf is for a few reasons.

i've posted a few hands recently that resulted in many people suggesting to fold pf (almost certainly incorrectly). discussion. pf hand selection by position has been well documented and well discussed to the point where i don't feel that this is the right place to be talking about it.

poker is an extremely complicated game. it doesn't boil down to charts, tables, and rules of thumb. if we make the situation extreme, and say that if UTG+2 raises every single hand, would you fold AJo? you wouldn't (or i hope). instead, you'd be looking for a remotely decent hand to try to isolate with and go with it. i felt that UTG+2 is getting out of line with his pf raises and wanted to isolate w/ some high cards. the added money from the poster makes this play even more enticing.

writing a post that summarizes into "read sshe and it will tell you not to 3-bet an EP raiser w/ AJo" detracts attention from quality, post-flop posts with genuine strategic information made by TPH, james, and nick royale. pf decisions will make a losing player into a break even player, but one cannot become a winning player without being able to play post flop with finesse.

i had posted this hand b/c a situation had arisen to where i am confronted with the possibility of having to fold a good hand in a big pot -- something that is counterintuitive. i wanted to hear what my colleagues had to say about it, and not about some marginal, unimportant, and boring pf decision that i know is generally incorrect.

with all that said, thank you all for your valuable input on this hand.

[Man of Means]

CO is unknown and it would be either collusive action or he's a complete tool if he goes this crazy without an overpair or JJ. I agree with Fold flop for 2, and hope it goes to showdown so you can get a read.

Preflop is understandable, I will 3-bet AJ without hesitation against someone playing super-LAG

[Nick Royale]

Oh, I assumed that CO in this hand was the LAG UTG+2 was having a contest with. If CO is unknown this flop fold is really super easy.

[QueBob]

Mason's books have some great insight into non-self weighting stratagies. You're making strategic errors, plain and simple, but your ego is refusing the debate. Analyzing your play is pointless as long as you refuse to accept the concept of a dominated hand.

[XmasXmas]

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Mason's books have some great insight into non-self weighting stratagies. You're making strategic errors, plain and simple, but your ego is refusing the debate. Analyzing your play is pointless as long as you refuse to accept the concept of a dominated hand.

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what're you saying? following a self-weighting strategy is a bad thing as that implies i'm not adjusting for specific scenarios. i tried to do the opposite here.

since you have mentioned malmuth's name in two threads that i've seen, here is a quote for you.

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Remember, the more self-weighting your opponent is, the poorer he plays.

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