$60 - top 2p vs. psycho boy

suzzer99 · #1 07-19-2006, 03:20 PM

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1230)
UTG+1 (t1430)
MP1 (t1110)
MP2 (t1825)
MP3 (t1685)
CO (t1480)
Button (t1450)
Hero (t1520)
BB (t1770)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t30, CO folds, Button calls t30, Hero calls t15, BB checks

Flop: (t150) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Button checks

Turn: (t150) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets t90, BB raises to t1740 (All-in), UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, Button folds, Hero?

Anyone ever fold this?

I know lead the flop. I guess my thinking was if I bet, on this table I'm probably gonna get 4 callers. Then a flush or straight card comes and I've got a huge pot to play OOP. I was hoping one of them would bet so I could bet it big and at least thin the field. Or maybe just call if the field has already thinned. As it worked out I'm not too disappointed in keeping the pot under control and hoping for a safe turn. I guess I just really don't like getting too aggro OOP in 5-way pots w/o the nuts.

Jay Riall · #2 07-19-2006, 03:23 PM

I think you gotta call this total donkey play. I take it your going for a check-raise on the flop. I probably just lead out. A fair few draws out there you want to charge.

bluefeet · #3 07-19-2006, 03:26 PM

pleeeeeease lead this flop.

(give the genius your chips on this rediculous overpush)

samsonh · #4 07-19-2006, 03:28 PM

Yes I definitely lead here, you've got a number of draws out there, let's make them pay. But obviously call this. What better hand does this? None.

Cair Paravel · #5 07-19-2006, 03:30 PM

I'd definitely lead the flop, planning to 3-bet, possibly all-in. I don't think I call this crazy all-in w/o a decent read that he'll do something like this w/ a hand I'm beating. I realize that there isn't much you trail (22, T9, the unlikely JJ/88), and that there are some good draws you're beating, but I don't think the risk-reward is worth it. Moves like this seem to be good hands more often than not**. But man, I have a hard time folding top two.

**(By more often than not, I admittedly mean a very small sample size. Twice this week in very similar situations I've seen the crazy over-bettor flip over the straight, apparently trying to chase out flush draws.)

livenowson · #6 07-19-2006, 03:32 PM

You should lead here. Top two pair is very vulnerable and you need to protect the best hand at the time. I think i fold here.

nuggetz87 · #7 07-19-2006, 03:55 PM

lead flop, instacall turn.

laser16 · #8 07-19-2006, 03:56 PM

I would def lead/3bet here as my plan on the flop. As played I would call planning to hit a J on the river if need be.

suzzer99 · #9 07-19-2006, 03:59 PM

Yeah I guess I'm just spooked making a big pot in any 5-way hand. But really sets are the only thing that beat me, so I shouldn't be so scared here.

flyty86 · #10 07-19-2006, 04:41 PM

pot the flop