Gay marriages... dictated by religious authorities

[Phil153]

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But bisexual behavior is EXTREMELY dangerous in spreading disease to the heterosexual population (e.g. AIDS)

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AIDS never was an exclusively gay disease (even though it was thought so back in the early eighties). The current distribution of AIDS among males and females kind of renders sexual orientation irrelevent in terms of threat. Promiscuity, on the other hand, actually is a threat.

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This is wrong. Bareback anal sex among gays was the sole cause of the spread of AIDS. The infection rate among heterosexuals was not sufficient to spread the disease until a critical mass of infections was reached after many years of gay activity.

I'll post some extremely damning data from the CDC when I get home. Homosexuals continue to be the leading cause (by far) of AIDS transmission, despite being a tiny proportion of the population. This is because buttsex is 200-1000 times more likely to result in infection than heterosexual sex.

[whiskeytown]

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Isn't it a fact in our society that some children comes from homes with 2 daddies, some from homes with two mommies,

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WHile it is a fact, it is a tiny percentage, and the bulk of America still sees it as deviant. That used to be enough for the left educators to leave it alone.

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woo hoo - another victory for mob rule.
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[KeysrSoze]

Man, you'd think the way Phil's going on that gay marriage is worse that marrying a colored.

[JackOfSpeed]

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Isn't it a fact in our society that some children comes from homes with 2 daddies, some from homes with two mommies,

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WHile it is a fact, it is a tiny percentage, and the bulk of America still sees it as deviant. That used to be enough for the left educators to leave it alone.

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woo hoo - another victory for mob rule.
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Exactly. I could be wrong about this, but doesn't the bulk of America see online gambling as deviant? Just because the majority is uncomfortable with some behavior doesn't mean we should attempt to prevent that behavior at all costs. Tyranny of the majority sucks when it takes away the rights of the minority.

And I don't think it's worth engaging Phil any more on this, he has fully revealed the disingenuity in his stance over his last several posts. If he was truly interested in a grander social cause like preventing the spread of HIV/AIDS, he would be advocating for safe sex, not advocating AGAINST a policy which encourages healthy, monogamous relationships. The paradox is that the further homosexuals are pushed back into the closet, the more promiscuous they will be (as they can't be in consistent, stable relationships for fear of the social stigma, but no public policy will fully repress basic sexual urges) and the more anonymous their sexual partners will be (this is a terrible problem for the spread of STDs like AIDS obv.).

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And FFish's statement about their "sham marriages", or that gays have done "their level best" to spread AIDS to the world...

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I hate what gays are doing to America. I own that.

They have also, throught their action, excerbated the spread of AIDS. Here's how. In the early years of the disease they fought every possible battle to keep the SF bath houses open. But far worse, in order to generate broad based support for AIDS funding, they implemented a fraudulent PR effort to make AIDS a str8 disease. It clearly was not, in AMerica, a str8 disease and much effort was misdirected, allowing the disease to spread. For this I hate them. It was an epidemiological fraud writ large.

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Do you hate Muslims? What about Germans? What about people from Salem?

People from each of these groups have done this way worse than spreading AIDS. But of course, it wasn't the entire group in any of the cases. This post is just an example of completely irrational bigotry.

[Schmitty 87]

Completely agree with OP (and others expressing similar sentiments). The amount of churches preaching blatant hatred at people for expressing their natural desires is sickening.

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False. SOciety ends up with many fewer functional nuclear families, a requisite for a healthy future society. The early returns from Europe are in. Gay marriage is the begining of the end for families.

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Ah yes, all those gay people would enter into heterosexual marriages if we didn't let them marry each other. This is just plain silly, even for you.

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Teenagers coming of age are best served by seeking out monogamous, emotionally fulfilling relationships with members of the opposite sex. Decreeing other alternatives to be acceptable is bad for society and individuals in my opinion.

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I disagree. I think the scientific jury is still out about what causes homosexuality, but I think it's pretty apparent that by pubery, sexual orientation is pretty well set. Social stigma attached to homosexual behavior doesn't, IMO, significantly reduce the number of people engaging in homosexual behavior, it just make life much more difficult for those who are homosexually oriented. The vast majority of us are wired to be attracted to the opposite sex. Evolution will insure that this will always be the case. Tolerating homosexual behavior poses no threat to society. Now if you were to replace "members of the opposite sex" in the quoted statement with "members of whatever sex they are attracted to", I would agree with it.

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It's a perversion of the natural state of affairs, and as such it weakens the social fabric in the same way polygamy and bestiality do.

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The only perversion is you calling it so. It is found in all cultures and in most species.

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So is polygamy, beastiality and sex with underage females. But society doesn't allow those.

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A lot of societies do allow polygamy. I don't see why people are so worried about polygamy. Not that I have any desire to have more than one wife.

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Just skimmed the article, but I would like to point out that correlation does not prove causation. Holland has implemented a whole slew of socially liberal policies in the mast few decades (most of which I agree with, BTW). To single out gay marriage as the sole cause of the increase in out-of-wedlock birhts is pretty silly