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07-14-2006, 06:26 PM
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Re: Movie Incongruities/Lucky Coincidences
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In the Rock when Sean Connery is leading everybody into the island, he rolls through the spurts of fire because he "memorized the timing." Then once he gets in, he opens a door to let the rest of the team in. Why would he have learned the fire timing when he could have just opened the door and walked out in the first place? [/ QUOTE ] At the time it was a fully functioning prison, which would have had guards, electronic locks, generally a much more secure area. No way to just stroll out. 
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#52
07-14-2006, 06:44 PM
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Re: Movie Incongruities/Lucky Coincidences
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In the Rock when Sean Connery is leading everybody into the island, he rolls through the spurts of fire because he "memorized the timing." Then once he gets in, he opens a door to let the rest of the team in. Why would he have learned the fire timing when he could have just opened the door and walked out in the first place? [/ QUOTE ] Wow, I've seen that movie like 10 times and never once thought about that but you're right it makes no sense.
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#53
07-14-2006, 06:54 PM
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OMG there are a ton in Oceans 11. [/ QUOTE ] Another one from Oceans 11. They go through the incredible effort to cut the explosive so it looks like emeralds or whatever, convince Garcia's character to store these "jewels" in the main vault etc. Meanwhile the asian kid slips into his little bucket and is sneaked into the vault himself. Why couldn't he just stash the explosives in his pockets or whatever? Swede
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#54
07-14-2006, 06:58 PM
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[ QUOTE ] OMG there are a ton in Oceans 11. [/ QUOTE ] Another one from Oceans 11. They go through the incredible effort to cut the explosive so it looks like emeralds or whatever, convince Garcia's character to store these "jewels" in the main vault etc. Meanwhile the asian kid slips into his little bucket and is sneaked into the vault himself. Why couldn't he just stash the explosives in his pockets or whatever? Swede [/ QUOTE ] Now this I totally agree with. A thin argument could be they didn't want to mess with his breathing space, but those emerald explosives seem pretty tiny to me (but not as tiny as that asian dude). I guess they just had to find something for Saul to do, so that's what they came up with. Definitely complicates things for the heist though. Just curious...could a radio signal from the detonator to the explosives travel through that thick vault? Just wondering. ScottieK
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#55
07-14-2006, 07:16 PM
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Re: Movie Incongruities/Lucky Coincidences
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[ QUOTE ] In the Rock when Sean Connery is leading everybody into the island, he rolls through the spurts of fire because he "memorized the timing." Then once he gets in, he opens a door to let the rest of the team in. Why would he have learned the fire timing when he could have just opened the door and walked out in the first place? [/ QUOTE ] At the time it was a fully functioning prison, which would have had guards, electronic locks, generally a much more secure area. No way to just stroll out. [/ QUOTE ] If there are guards on the side of the door from which the team entered, he wouldn't have gotten away either way. I also think it's stretching it that there would be guards on the other side of the door, but not anywhere else along his route. Also, aside from guards you seem to be indicating that back then the place had electronic locks and other high-tech security devices, which have since been disabled. But why didn't they disable the unnecessary fire spurts? It seems more likely that the Rock simply got neglected and that its security measures were just things like mazes and automated fire mechanisms that they never shut down. It would be weird if they shut down half their devices (electronic locks, for example) but not the fire ones.
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#56
07-14-2006, 07:24 PM
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The Ocean's 11 ones are ok but Ocean's 12 is really strange to me.
They go through this whole charade of various plots and arrangements, getting arrested and thrown in jail etc etc etc. They go to the Night Fox's house and arrange this elaborate bet with him bla bla bla. Why did they not, as soon as Night Fox says "ok let's bet who can steal it", say "ok, here it is, we win, pay up fool."
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#57
07-14-2006, 07:47 PM
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Re: Movie Incongruities/Lucky Coincidences
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[ QUOTE ] In the Rock when Sean Connery is leading everybody into the island, he rolls through the spurts of fire because he "memorized the timing." Then once he gets in, he opens a door to let the rest of the team in. Why would he have learned the fire timing when he could have just opened the door and walked out in the first place? [/ QUOTE ] At the time it was a fully functioning prison, which would have had guards, electronic locks, generally a much more secure area. No way to just stroll out. [/ QUOTE ] This is not a bad theory, this part always bothered me because the fire thing was so cool and so marred by the fact that he could have just walked through the door.
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#58
07-14-2006, 07:51 PM
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Re: Movie Incongruities/Lucky Coincidences
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In the Rock when Sean Connery is leading everybody into the island, he rolls through the spurts of fire because he "memorized the timing." Then once he gets in, he opens a door to let the rest of the team in. Why would he have learned the fire timing when he could have just opened the door and walked out in the first place? [/ QUOTE ] For that matter, why couldn't a unit of bad ass commandos just breech the door with some C4?
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#59
07-14-2006, 07:55 PM
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i dont' think this is odd at all...depending on who im talking to i don't always end my conversations with some indicator...usually both parties know the conversation is over so i just hang up, its not done in a rude way... [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My searching skills are substandard: has this been an OOT / QZ thread yet? Because I thought it's been pretty much the norm to never say goodbye (and not because of Bon Jovi). Sorry for the hijack. [/ QUOTE ] I had no idea this was a standard thing. My bad.
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#60
07-14-2006, 11:52 PM
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Re: Movie Incongruities/Lucky Coincidences
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[ QUOTE ] i dont' think this is odd at all...depending on who im talking to i don't always end my conversations with some indicator...usually both parties know the conversation is over so i just hang up, its not done in a rude way... [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My searching skills are substandard: has this been an OOT / QZ thread yet? Because I thought it's been pretty much the norm to never say goodbye (and not because of Bon Jovi). Sorry for the hijack. [/ QUOTE ] I had no idea this was a standard thing. My bad. [/ QUOTE ] Meh, it's not a big deal. I noticed this first when I started got into old eps of "ER" a couple of years ago. The characters' conversations tended to end abruptly - and, for the sake of drama, sometimes spicily. Very really did they end with any kind of "k'bye" type of thing. Since then, I've noticed this is pretty much standard throughout film and TV. I guess writers just assume the goodbye is understood, or maybe they want to make their subjects look more edgy. Anyway, look for this elsewhere, I'm sure you'll find it's prevalent.
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