AT BB vs TAG

donger · #1 07-13-2006, 04:14 PM

Maybe this belongs in micros, but am I playing this right? FOld the turn? Show it down?

Button is a winning TAG, 27/21/2.3 38 WTSD. I've seen him do some semidumb stuff like cap an OESD OOP on the flop, etc.

Cryptologic
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Donger is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, Button raises, SB folds, Donger 3-bets, Button calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
Donger bets, Button calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players)
Donger bets, Button calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5.25BB, 2 players)
Donger checks, Button bets, Donger folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: 5.25BB

mute · #2 07-13-2006, 05:28 PM

Well played, I'd say.

ILOVEPOKER929 · #3 07-13-2006, 05:33 PM

Every street in your hand is standard IMO, except the turn. The turn play is close. If you think this guy will fold a hand like 55, then I like the turn bet. But if you dont think you can get a lesser hand to fold, then I prefer check/calling the turn, and check/folding the river. The reason I say this is becuz when a good player calls you on that specific flop, he will have A-high beat a lot, so the value of your hand takes a huge blow once the villain calls here. On the turn, you picked up some outs. You now have up to 7 outs to beat Qx and 10 outs to beat a lower pair. What this means if you dont really wanna bet/fold here nor do you really wanna bet/call. Since the probability that youre trailing is very high, betting the turn is largely dependent on how often you think you can get a lower pair to fold on this board. If you have no folding equity against a lower pair, then check/calling the turn will be your best play.

donger · #4 07-13-2006, 06:24 PM

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Every street in your hand is standard IMO, except the turn. The turn play is close. If you think this guy will fold a hand like 55, then I like the turn bet. But if you dont think you can get a lesser hand to fold, then I prefer check/calling the turn, and check/folding the river. The reason I say this is becuz when a good player calls you on that specific flop, he will have A-high beat a lot, so the value of your hand takes a huge blow once the villain calls here. On the turn, you picked up some outs. You now have up to 7 outs to beat Qx and 10 outs to beat a lower pair. What this means if you dont really wanna bet/fold here nor do you really wanna bet/call. Since the probability that youre trailing is very high, betting the turn is largely dependent on how often you think you can get a lower pair to fold on this board. If you have no folding equity against a lower pair, then check/calling the turn will be your best play.

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Nice post. I was also thinking that he could have a gutshot with hands like A3/A5 that he would be correct to call on the flop that he might abandon on the turn.

Schizo · #5 07-13-2006, 06:41 PM

standard

dave44 · #6 07-13-2006, 07:12 PM

My instinct is that there are not going to be enough better hands that would fold or worse hands that will call for this turn bet to be better than check-calling.

donger · #7 07-13-2006, 07:16 PM

Ok, let's assume the turn goes ck-ck and the river bricks out (pairs the board or something). Should I check-call here or is that spewy? Is calling the river part of the ck-call turn line?

dave44 · #8 07-13-2006, 07:26 PM

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Ok, let's assume the turn goes ck-ck and the river bricks out (pairs the board or something). Should I check-call here or is that spewy? Is calling the river part of the ck-call turn line?

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If he checks through the turn, I'd probably call, but I think its pretty close and I wouldn't mind a fold. If he bets the turn, I'm folding the river.