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Old 07-11-2006, 03:53 PM
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It's probobly been posted, but when can we expect the senate to vote on this issue?

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From the posts of the people that seem to know, it looks like this is the big question. One of the bigger hopes for the bills' opponents is to "kill the clock", and hope the Senate doesn't have time to vote. There's rumors that Senator Kyl is attempting to expedite the Senate process though.
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:56 PM
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The WSJ had a similar poll a while back. the majority of that poll were against making it illegal as well. The WSJ is very conservative.

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I think that I went over this when that "poll" came out, but you have to look at how the questions were asked, in what order, etc.

I would also note that the WSJ editor even noted that the informal online survey of WSJ.com readers' opinions, and not a scientific sampling.

Polling is a science and an industry. Online polls are not reflective of actual views unfortunately (in this case).
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:56 PM
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It's probobly been posted, but when can we expect the senate to vote on this issue?

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From the posts of the people that seem to know, it looks like this is the big question. One of the bigger hopes for the bills' opponents is to "kill the clock", and hope the Senate doesn't have time to vote. There's rumors that Senator Kyl is attempting to expedite the Senate process though.

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what do you mean doesn't have time to vote?

i know nothing of the political process, so please deal with my ignorance.
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:57 PM
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If you took a vote of the general population, we wouldn't have a prayer, and it's not even close.

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I really think you are grossly overestimating the sentiments of the majority of Americans who really couldn't give two-hoots about such stuff and think it's silly to ban it.

Many of my relatives (including both of my parents) are Republicans and pretty conservative.
None of them think online-gambling should be against the law.

Same goes for my Dad's conservative buddies.

FWIW - a NYTimes poll about internet-gambling had I believe about 75% opposed to making it illegal.
But the NYT is often viewed ad a more liberally slanted publication so perhaps that doesn't mean much.


Maybe I just don't have my finger on the pulse of the U.S. (wouldn't be the first time) but most Americans either think it's kind of silly or they just don't care I believe.

there just aren't THAT many people who think it's even remotely important that we need to ban online-gambling.
Personally, I don't know a single one.

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This is correct. Various polls have had between 70-85% of Americans AGAINST a ban on Internet gambling.

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sadly what Americans want doesn't matter. i hate america. im moving to vegas.
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:57 PM
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if the amendment passes, the bill fails

so go amendment!

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Going back to this, can someone explain how it is possible for an amendment to kill a bill? I don't really understand.

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The bill had exemptions for horseracing and lotteries. The amendment did not have those exemptions. If the amendment passed, then the horse racing industry would've been up in arms and probably gets the bill killed in the Senate.
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:58 PM
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maybe a ridiculous question but is there anybody I can give money to that will reliably use it to make sure this thing doesn't get passed?
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:00 PM
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maybe a ridiculous question but is there anybody I can give money to that will reliably use it to make sure this thing doesn't get passed?

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im sure thats already being done.
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:02 PM
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maybe a ridiculous question but is there anybody I can give money to that will reliably use it to make sure this thing doesn't get passed?

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Jack Abramoff, but he's busy now.
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:03 PM
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maybe a ridiculous question but is there anybody I can give money to that will reliably use it to make sure this thing doesn't get passed?

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im sure thats already being done.

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I would hope the major poker companies are spending tons in any way they can. However that doesn't mean I can't help too.
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:04 PM
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maybe a ridiculous question but is there anybody I can give money to that will reliably use it to make sure this thing doesn't get passed?

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im sure thats already being done.

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I would hope the major poker companies are spending tons in any way they can. However that doesn't mean I can't help too.

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true.

i would donate if i knew it would help. maybe we should organize a massive picket line.
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