Would you bet the flop here?

[bernie]

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Because everyone would likely just call; and right so with over 1:12 odds. The turn would then probably be checked to me, and if I bet out again people still get about 1:10 odds to correctly pursue any miracle they might hope for (or a flush). Now if I check, someone is likely to bet out on the turn, giving me the chance to raise a smaller pot. Now they face a 2BB bet on a 7BB pot, making a call incorrect in many cases. Also, I might actually make more money with a turn raise, or at least almost the same. I'm just not sure if this principle completely applies here.

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I had a feeling you were going to say this exact line of thinking, which is incredibly wrong. You are betting for value, there is no need to protect when you have the best hand.

I really don't want to get too deep into why you should bet this flop... if you aren't, just read SSHE. Your thinking is way far out there.

Also, do you think everyone is drawing? Why can't anyone call down with a weaker hand?

Haupt_234

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His thinking is fine, it's just not the hand to do it. It's not as simple as just 'you have the best hand, therefore you must bet'.

The flop really isn't that coordinated(other than the flush draw) especially if these players are tight coldcallers. There are no overcards to beat you and many lesser hands will call. Initial preflop raiser likely has none of the flop. Nor does the coldcaller. On top of that, you have the A of trump. Even if a lesser K calls (correctly if he holds the Kicker of trump card) he won't get the odds on the turn to call as he'd be getting only 9-1 on a 14-1 shot. Yet he'd likely pay off all the way. Most of the other 2 pair draws would likely be Axs.(though not as true in looser games. Also the BB might not.) So you won't mind the A hitting the turn.

Sometimes when you do have the best hand, you don't always bet/raise. Both SSHE and HEPFAP cover this. OP may be thinking more of the HEPFAP example. Add an opponent or 2 and I might wait into the turn.

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