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#61
06-22-2006, 11:14 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Johnson retaliated because Jason Johnson had been hitting Yankee batters all night including Posada. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't what this is about? My point is that retaliation is part of the game. Why is it ok when Joe Torre's team retaliates but when the White Sox do it Ozzie Guillen is a savage? By the way, the Indians hit only one batter in that game -- hardly qualifies as "hitting Yankee batters all night". [/ QUOTE ] Yeah he hits Posada and people whine when Randy merely goes inside on Perez. That has to be the most BS suspension ever- a game for not even hitting anybody. [/ QUOTE ] I love MLB. Torre gets a suspension for a pitch that doesn't even hit a batter, and Ozzie runs around threatening rookie pitchers when they don't bean people, calling people [censored] fagggots, and nothing happens. 
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#62
06-22-2006, 11:18 AM
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sox HBP (batting): 31 MLB median team HBP: 28.5 [/ QUOTE ] I'm typically a big fan of median analysis. But this is more of a relative thing. In games with Ozzie managing 58% of hit batters have been White Sox. Plus lumping in the NL where pitchers bat seems wrong since AL goons can bean without facing the music in the batters box.
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#63
06-22-2006, 11:23 AM
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I love MLB. Torre gets a suspension for a pitch that doesn't even hit a batter, and Ozzie runs around threatening rookie pitchers when they don't bean people, calling people [censored] fagggots, and nothing happens. [/ QUOTE ] Ozzie will be suspended for Riske hitting Duncan. Threatening rookie pitchers???????? What did he say? Were you in the dugout to listen? As for calling Mariotti a [censored] he may still face punitive action. Do me a favor though. Read Mariotti's White Sox articles since Ozzie was hired, then listen to (or read) Ozzie's rant against Mariotti and let me know how you would view things from Ozzies perspective.
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#64
06-22-2006, 11:27 AM
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Dude, I think Mariotti's a [censored], too, but if I were the manager of a baseball team I certainly wouldn't call him that when anyone's around.
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#65
06-22-2006, 11:30 AM
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[ QUOTE ] I love MLB. Torre gets a suspension for a pitch that doesn't even hit a batter, and Ozzie runs around threatening rookie pitchers when they don't bean people, calling people [censored] fagggots, and nothing happens. [/ QUOTE ] Ozzie will be suspended for Riske hitting Duncan. Threatening rookie pitchers???????? What did he say? Were you in the dugout to listen? As for calling Mariotti a [censored] he may still face punitive action. Do me a favor though. Read Mariotti's White Sox articles since Ozzie was hired, then listen to (or read) Ozzie's rant against Mariotti and let me know how you would view things from Ozzies perspective. [/ QUOTE ] If Ozzie has called Mariotti a douche most everyone would have just agreed, because Mariotti is an enormous douche. It's just unfortunate for him he happened to use a word that is politically incorrect. I haven't seen anybody refute the "He's a piece of [censored]" part of the quote.
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#66
06-22-2006, 11:36 AM
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Re: Ozzie Guillen
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I love MLB. Torre gets a suspension for a pitch that doesn't even hit a batter, and Ozzie runs around threatening rookie pitchers when they don't bean people, calling people [censored] fagggots, and nothing happens. [/ QUOTE ] Ozzie will be suspended for Riske hitting Duncan. Threatening rookie pitchers???????? What did he say? Were you in the dugout to listen? As for calling Mariotti a [censored] he may still face punitive action. Do me a favor though. Read Mariotti's White Sox articles since Ozzie was hired, then listen to (or read) Ozzie's rant against Mariotti and let me know how you would view things from Ozzies perspective. [/ QUOTE ] If Ozzie has called Mariotti a douche most everyone would have just agreed, because Mariotti is an enormous douche. It's just unfortunate for him he happened to use a word that is politically incorrect. I haven't seen anybody refute the "He's a piece of [censored]" part of the quote. [/ QUOTE ] Ozzie defended his use of "[censored]" to another reporter saying crap like "in my country..." and "it's not against gays, it's against his manhood" lol. Then later, after a talk with Reinsdorf, Ozzie appoligized for using it yet still defended his use of it in his apology.
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#67
06-22-2006, 11:36 AM
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Do me a favor though. Read Mariotti's White Sox articles since Ozzie was hired, then listen to (or read) Ozzie's rant against Mariotti and let me know how you would view things from Ozzies perspective. [/ QUOTE ] Are you serious? How could what some columnist writes possible excuse Guillen for saying the stuff he says? Dealing with the media is one of the main things that Guillen is paid seven figures to do, he gets held to a higher standard of conduct than a 10 year old.
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#68
06-22-2006, 12:41 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Ozzie, however, will throw at you if you look at him the wrong way [/ QUOTE ] Ozzie has no such reputation. I watch virtually every Sox game and they never start this crap. In his tenure as manager Sox pitchers have hit 125 batters and Sox batters been hit 178 times. They want to stay out of trouble because they are in contention and have no need for suspensions. They play clean, hard, aggressive baseball. But when pushed once too often you just have to push back. [/ QUOTE ] How come they are the one team in the league constantly involved in this stuff?
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#69
06-22-2006, 01:11 PM
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It's been an issue twice in the past month. Where do you get "constantly" from?
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#70
06-22-2006, 01:13 PM
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It was an issue all last season as well
The White Sox are involved in this stuff more than any other team since Guillen took over.
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