Is a high IQ necessary to be a poker pro

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A high IQ is not necessary because it is mainly the repetition of various scenarios coupled with rudimentary study that leads to a great player.

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I agree with you that it takes study and practice to become a great player. But to be at the thinking level of a Ivey or Hansen, high intelligence must be a prerequisite.

I'm sure there are many fairly successful poker pros who are not in the genius range, or perhaps not even above an IQ of 130, but also keep in mind that most pros aren't in the league of "great".

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tell that to employers please, Im around 160-165 and I cant even get an internship. IQ means less than most people think

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Getting a job has more to do with hard work than intelligence a lot of the time. I know many very intelligent people who are simply lazy. My IQ was tested to be 160+ several years back, and I am a huge procrastinator.

[thedarknight]

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10 points is a standard deviation. so an IQ of 130 is already in the top 1%.

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I think the SD in a typical IQ test is 15 or 16. My IQ is in the low 160s, and I'm pretty sure I'm around sigma 4.

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[mlagoo]

it would be funny to do a poll on this forum of what peoples IQ is. i have a sneaking suspicion that people MIGHT think their IQ is a bit higher than it actually is.

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it would be funny to do a poll on this forum of what peoples IQ is. i have a sneaking suspicion that people MIGHT think their IQ is a bit higher than it actually is.

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yes that is probably true just like how everyone thinks they're so good at poker. there was a thread awhile ago, post your SAT score and IQ and pretty much everyone was a genius.

[Jaksiel]

The thing is, most people who say what their IQ is got it from some online tests, which I've noticed cause people to test higher than they really should be.

[MicroBob]

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But to be at the thinking level of a Ivey or Hansen, high intelligence must be a prerequisite.

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Sklansky seemed to agree with you in his post just before XMas of 2004 where he rated the 'smartest poker players' (his list included Greenstein, Reese, Ivey, Lederer, Phillips...Hansen didn't make his top 10 but I think he said would probably make his second 10).


It's in the archives somewhere.
I'd dig up the link for you but a common characteristic of super-geniuses like me is laziness.

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I think the main reason many intelligent people are plagued by laziness is simply boredom. What's the point of doing trivial work if it doesn't interest, or more importantly, challenge us?

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10 points is a standard deviation. so an IQ of 130 is already in the top 1%.

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I think the SD in a typical IQ test is 15 or 16. My IQ is in the low 160s, and I'm pretty sure I'm around sigma 4.

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that may have changed with the time. initially, meaning when they were first created, they were setup to have a mean of 100 and SD of 10, for the obvious reason of making it very easy to do calculations. i noticed most 'test yourself' or online iq test have much much wider SD which i think is only natural because they are being marketed to the masses and you much rather sell them a test that will give them a big number than a low one.

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I believe that when it was first created it was calculated as your mental age divided by your actual age, then multiplied by 100... so a 10 year old with an IQ of 120 would have the intelligence of an average 12 year old.

Also I believe it was primarily intended to measure intelligence in those under 16. Supposedly it's not even really a good measure of intelligence for those older than their teen years.

[kutuz_off]

Since a big part of IQ tests is related to pattern recognition, I would think that high IQ correlates with success at poker.