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Old 06-17-2006, 01:46 PM
buhler26 buhler26 is offline
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Default 3/6: Pot too big to fold?

SB is TAG, 17/13/3.1/90
MP2 is unknown

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, MP2 calls.

River: (14 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16 BB
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Old 06-17-2006, 01:49 PM
Grease Grease is offline
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Default Re: 3/6: Pot too big to fold?

The SB's play reeks of a flush draw. If he is indeed TAG, there are very few hands he calls two cold with.

That said, you're getting 15-1 on your river call, and especially with MP2 folding, I would lose sleep over folding this.

I call this down.
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Old 06-17-2006, 01:54 PM
RyanCMU RyanCMU is offline
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Default Re: 3/6: Pot too big to fold?

I call here too and as much as I hate it, I think we have too. The pot is just to big to fold even though it looks like we are beat.

You play the hand fine, and there is just not much you can do when that spade falls and he donks into you, and I think we have to pay it off though.
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Old 06-17-2006, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: 3/6: Pot too big to fold?

is the turn raise standard? what are we putting mp2 here, a weak K
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Old 06-17-2006, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: 3/6: Pot too big to fold?

It sure does look like he's go the flush. But, I'd still pay him off. He could be doing a bet/fold scare card line with AK KQ or KJ.
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Old 06-17-2006, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: 3/6: Pot too big to fold?

SB takes a pretty weird line. What's with the flop threebet and then checking the turn blank? If he's got a big king doesn't he bet the turn, or is he expecting a bet to come from Hero in the hopes of facing MP with two cold? If he doesn't have a big king does he threebet the flop? I don't know how to put numbers on this, but I'd really like to. 16:1 on the river, closing the action, I'm pretty sure I call expecting to see the flush a lot.

-Tim
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Old 06-17-2006, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: 3/6: Pot too big to fold?

nh
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Old 06-17-2006, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: 3/6: Pot too big to fold?

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is the turn raise standard? what are we putting mp2 here, a weak K

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I think we have to raise the turn if we don't cap the flop here. I would have capped the flop, though.

Call the river, the hands looks good.

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Old 06-17-2006, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: 3/6: Pot too big to fold?

The pot odds alone justify a call when you have played such a strong hand all the way through. A pro could not have done anything more to win this hand.
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