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Old 06-15-2006, 08:18 PM
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It sucks that your favorite bank teller has insufficient health care coverage but I don't see what this has to do with these conjoined twins being separated. Surely the two treatments aren't mutually exclusive? I don't think I really understand your questions (or why you want answers from "liberals out there" specifically.)
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:23 PM
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"How much do you think WE paid?"

Don't know. But what would you have done instead? Refuse to extend the parents' visas? For me, sometimes the cost is a secondary concern. I assume that, since the parents have been here since last August, they're spending some money and doing some things so they are paying some taxes.
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:24 PM
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It sucks that your favorite bank teller has insufficient health care coverage but I don't see what this has to do with these conjoined twins being separated. Surely the two treatments aren't mutually exclusive? I don't think I really understand your questions (or why you want answers from "liberals out there" specifically.)

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My question is why should MY government pay for aliens who came for a weekend, discovered there were problems with the pregnancy and opted to stay so they could get free healthcare.

Why aren't the same considerations afforded to an American citizen who pays taxes?
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:28 PM
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If we had universal health care in this country, both the twins and the teller would have their medical needs met, no?
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:32 PM
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It sucks that your favorite bank teller has insufficient health care coverage but I don't see what this has to do with these conjoined twins being separated. Surely the two treatments aren't mutually exclusive? I don't think I really understand your questions (or why you want answers from "liberals out there" specifically.)

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My question is why should MY government pay for aliens who came for a weekend, discovered there were problems with the pregnancy and opted to stay so they could get free healthcare.

Why aren't the same considerations afforded to an American citizen who pays taxes?

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I agree that American citizens should have guaranteed access to health care. I guess I'm just not drawing the connection between the two cases you presented or, more generally, how government-assisted health care for non-citizens in certain unique circumstances contributes in any meaningful way to a lack of health care for citizens. I don't think they're mutually exclusive.
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:38 PM
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If we had universal health care in this country, both the twins and the teller would have their medical needs met, no?

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Not sure. When I was vacationing in GB a couple years ago and had to see a doctor, I had to pay even though they have Universal Health Care.

What you are saying is that I find out that I have a serious desease, all I have to do is visit another country and they will support me and pay all my bills?
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:39 PM
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OK, so why aren't American Citizens afforded the same courtesy?
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:43 PM
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What you are saying is that I find out that I have a serious desease, all I have to do is visit another country and they will support me and pay all my bills?

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Old 06-15-2006, 09:02 PM
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OK, so why aren't American Citizens afforded the same courtesy?

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This is a complicated question but I think it's safe to say that providing government-assisted health care to some non-citizens isn't one of the reasons.
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Old 06-15-2006, 09:42 PM
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Not saying they are mutually exclusive. Just saying it sux that nonAmericans get treated better in America than Americans.
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