instaCALL or instaFOLD

[yvesaint]

villain is really weird

first orbit:

short-stack raises to 22 (he has 180 behind), i (600 behind) reraise to 72 w/AA, SB (800 behind) flat calls, short-stack pushes, i push, SB CALLS

Me: AA
short-stack: QQ
SB: KdJd

i hold up and scoop. SB about 3-4 orbits later does a weird button open limp-push over BBs raise.

hand in question:

villain is now UTG and raises to 22

i reraise AKo to 72

villain (750, i cover) pushes

insta-call?

[FGators]

I wouldnt insta, because I hate playing large coinflips in cash games. You can take this maniacs money on a 5 card board a lot easier than leaving it up to a gamble.

[yvesaint]

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I wouldnt insta, because I hate playing large coinflips in cash games. You can take this maniacs money on a 5 card board a lot easier than leaving it up to a gamble.

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this isnt a coinflip if he never has AA/KK here

[FGators]

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I wouldnt insta, because I hate playing large coinflips in cash games. You can take this maniacs money on a 5 card board a lot easier than leaving it up to a gamble.

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this isnt a coinflip if he never has AA/KK here

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Thats another possibility. I cannot see calling this.

[Triumph36]

If he never has AA/KK here it's an easy call. You flip with a lot of his range and dominate the rest. Obviously if you think he plays AA/KK this way as well it's a fold, though hardly INSTA. Playing 12 tables you probably have to INSTA everything.

[Gary Stevenson]

insta fold for me against this guy...seems like there will be plenty more opportunities to stack him

[Requin]

I'd call, that KJ hand is enough for me.

[Megenoita]

I agree to fold here. Part of his range IS AA/KK, and you flip against his other hands. I doubt he does this with AQ. And I don't like coinflips for full stacks, BUT, if you don't mind the variance, I do believe that calling here is +EV because I think that you have equity here given the dead money.

[cts]

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I agree to fold here. Part of his range IS AA/KK, and you flip against his other hands. I doubt he does this with AQ. And I don't like coinflips for full stacks, BUT, if you don't mind the variance, I do believe that calling here is +EV because I think that you have equity here given the dead money.

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Ummm did you read yves' original post?

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why do you think he never has aa/kk here?

thought 1. thinking from the villian's perspective, you raised with a good hand before, you must have a good hand now. therefore he should push aa/kk because you will call.

thought 2. he called before with kj. jesus h. i think it's tough to exclude many hands from his range.

anyway, my vote is +ev because i think we can add aq, aj to his range.