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#11
06-12-2006, 06:04 AM
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Re: Interesting hand vs. Durrrrrrr
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I think pushing is warranted. [/ QUOTE ] AAAH. 
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#12
06-12-2006, 06:22 AM
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Re: Interesting hand vs. Durrrrrrr
was the question about the line in general.. or the river call? in general, i jam the turn too, but i dont hate a chekc behind. if you are doing it i like the raise, but to a shove.. i fold to his shove all day. feel free to exploit me. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] holla
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#13
06-12-2006, 08:59 AM
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Re: Interesting hand vs. Durrrrrrr
Based on your history, it seems as though this large overbet is there because he thinks you'll make a looser call because of his earlier lag play. I think it's a fold, and not very close either.
BTW, next time don't check turn.
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#14
06-12-2006, 09:08 AM
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Re: Interesting hand vs. Durrrrrrr
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Based on your history, it seems as though this large overbet is there because he thinks you'll make a looser call because of his earlier lag play. I think it's a fold, and not very close either. BTW, next time don't check turn. [/ QUOTE ] it's not really an overbet. fold btw although everyone has said what I think already.
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#15
06-12-2006, 10:13 AM
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Re: Interesting hand vs. Durrrrrrr
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was the question about the line in general.. or the river call? in general, i jam the turn too, but i dont hate a chekc behind. if you are doing it i like the raise, but to a shove.. i fold to his shove all day. feel free to exploit me. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] holla [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, the question was about the river. Honestly, I don't find the turn to be atrocious, although given durrrr's probable suspicion of my button it's definitely letting him off the hook. Maybe not the best spot for pot control, but it can't be that awful IMO. Anyway, I folded the river which I was worried at the time I was just doing to stop the bleeding of the day. Glad to see it seems like an obvious fold. Durrrrrrr showed 88 FWIW. Nasty.
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#16
06-12-2006, 11:41 AM
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Re: Interesting hand vs. Durrrrrrr
I don't think the turn check is as bad as everyone else makes it out to be. It's perfectly fine as long as you're doing it to trap, rather than for pot control. There's no reason to fear being behind on this board.
What I don't like is your turn check combined with your river play. The small raise just reeks of a marginal hand looking for value that can't stand heat. Would you ever bluff this small? Probably not. Would you raise this small with a set? Probably not, because you're checking the turn in order to get paid more than you would by betting. QJ? I don't think I've ever played against you, and I don't know your style, but most good players won't make such a small raise with a monster. Raise it up to 650-700, then you can feel free to fold to a push.
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#17
06-12-2006, 11:47 AM
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Re: Interesting hand vs. Durrrrrrr
You let him hit 99 or 1010?
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#19
06-12-2006, 01:56 PM
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Re: Interesting hand vs. Durrrrrrr
FF,
"Glad to see it seems like an obvious fold." I did not think it was an obvious fold. In fact, I would never make that river raise of yours if I were going to fold to a push.
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#20
06-12-2006, 02:30 PM
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Re: Interesting hand vs. Durrrrrrr
Following up the mistake to raise on the river by throwing away more money can't be good either, so that logic must be flawed.
Still, it's never a clear fold, it's always a percentage fold. Writing this, I don't remember which color your first card had, but in this case I'd call if both aces were red. Btw, nice stop bet fake on the river by the villain.
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