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#152
06-09-2006, 12:45 AM
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Re: Update
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if you're set on having a meeting, just make it obvious to principal and TAP that if you don't work this out you're not coming. in the meeting, something like, I really like teaching here, I really think physics program/kids are great etc, it's really a shame that we're not going to be able to work this out as I'd like to come back this year, etc. don't out and out and threaten anyone or try to call anyone out or anything, just let them know in the nicest way possible that you won't be coming back unless the schedule changes. [/ QUOTE ] i have already committed to coming back (i had to let them know by march 1). i do not want to make that bluff unless i am ready to be called on it, and at this point i am not. as far as "calling TAP out", i do not intend to do so in a dramatic, in your face fashion. i am going to allow them to explain why i got (imo) the shaft. i am assuming, but maybe i am wrong, that the explanaiton will not be satisfactory. i am then going to tell them this feels personal, and ask what i have done to deserve this treatment. since the new principal does not know me, he cannot have a beef with me, but TAP can and likely does. i don't think the full insanity of this woman is being done justice here. she has some demons. 
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#153
06-09-2006, 12:48 AM
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I'm torn between: 1) Losing enthusiasm and mailing it in for the next X years until retirement [/ QUOTE ] i told myself when i entered this profession that i wouldn't become one of those teachers. i knew there was no money in this, and yet i chose it. maybe some older teachers didn't know that, and are now kinda stuck. but i knew it coming in, so i have no excuse. it's not the kids fault that i am a bitter [censored], and they shouldn't have to deal with it. i'd walk away before i got like that.
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#155
06-09-2006, 01:16 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bob, If you're not resigned to being [censored], which it seems like you aren't, I still vote for going over TAP's head. [/ QUOTE ] well, i am attempting to schedule a meeting with the principal and TAP. at this point i cannot think of any reason for being treated this way, other than that it is something personal. i intend to find out what is behind this. [/ QUOTE ] No, no, no. This is the most sure-fire way to ensure you end up with the [censored] schedule and/or burn all your bridges and wind up teaching somewhere else. First you need to talk to the Cryer face-to-face and ask/beg for her to give you the AP Physics class in exchange for the regular Chem. and Physics/Freshman. You've said yourself she is emotional and wants to feel loved, for god's sake use this knowledge, play to her insecurities and make her feel like she'll be loved if she helps you out. If she agrees you might be able to leverage her compromise into convincing the New Guy to take a couple Freshman quarters off your hands in exchange for regular Physics. Then and only then do you go to the administration with the a new schedule that the three of you teachers have agreed upon. Also, it's entirely possible your being shafted just because you were gone. The ol' out of sight, out of mind. TTWC and TNG might have put these class schedule requests in while you were gone and the administration just stamped them through since they'd forgetten about you. And even if TAP is really out to get you confronting her and her boss will do absolutely nothing to improve your situation. It will just make her dislike you even more and give the new principal a bad impression of you. [/ QUOTE ] TTWC isn't going to give me [censored]. why would she, as she has her dream schedule, and knows damn well it will be difficult to wrestle the new AP Phyiscs course from her once she starts teaching it (although she likely will [censored] it up, but that will take years to come to light). besides, she had the chance in the initial meeting to play the good soldier and balked at the idea. never mind that before i left last year, i gave her ALL of my AP materials. tests i had written, my schedule of how much time to spend on each topic, assignments, lecture notes. the whole deal. she is an ungrateful, self-serving bitch. i am done pussyfooting around her and considering her fragile feelings. when she [censored] up, and she will (does) often, she's gonna hear about it from me. as far as buring bridges, i agree that one should never do it. however, there is clearly no bridge here to burn. it is becoming more and more obvious that TAP is out ot screw me. i cannot damage a relationship with her, as it is already soured. so i am going to calmly, cooly but firmly and articulately speak my mind and put her on the spot. In the past, when TAP was still a science teacher, she had made disparaging remarks to me about TTWC. She KNOWS I am more qualified, but apparently did not let the new princiapl know that. i intend to find out why. it is unlikely that i am being shafted because i was gone. other teachers from other departments have taken leaves, and they get thier classes back. the screw job that i have recieved is almost momumental. not only did they take from me a course that I built from the ground up, but they stuck me with a class that i have never taught before. this makes no sense. [/ QUOTE ] You seem set on going the administrative route, so I wish you the best of luck. I know TTWC didn't respond when the schedules were initially handed out but I've always found if you get someone one-on-one (this is key, in a group setting it's hopeless) and put the pressure on them to examine the reality of the situation and effectively ask them, "Are you personally going to screw me here?", you can get more out of them than you thought. Plus, she's a wreck, I have to imagine you have at least a decent shot at manipulating her into helping you if you get her one-on-one. TAP seems to be just a rotten person in general who doesn't like TTWC or you. I'd wager she could careless if you were more qualified than TTWC. Maybe she's didn't tell the new principal about your qualifications or worse bad-mouthed you to him and is out to screw you with this schedule, or maybe she just doesn't care about you or about who the kids will be better off having teach AP Physics. It really makes no difference since she'll never admit she is screwing you and her BS response isn't gonna help you feel any better. As for the new principal he doesn't have a lot of information to work with and since he's come out of retirement for this gig he probably doesn't much care either.
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#156
06-09-2006, 01:40 AM
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Re: Update
When I was young I knew everything
And she a punk who rarely ever took advice Now I'm guilt stricken, sobbin' with my head on the floor Stop a baby's breath and a shoe full of rice, no... I can't be held responsible 'Cause she was touching her face I won't be held responsible She fell in love in the first place For the life of me I cannot remember What made us think that we were wise and we'd never compromise For the life of me I cannot believe we'd ever die for these sins We were merely freshmen My best friend took a week's vacation to forget her His girl took a week's worth of valium and slept And now he's guilt stricken sobbin' with his head on the floor Thinks about her now and how he never really wept he says I can't be held responsible 'Cause she was touching her face I won't be held responsible She fell in love in the first place For the life of me I cannot remember What made us think that we were wise and we'd never compromise For the life of me I cannot believe we'd ever die for these sins We were merely freshmen We've tried to wash our hands of all of this We never talk of our lacking relationships And how we're guilt stricken sobbin' with our heads on the floor We fell through the ice when we tried not to slip, we'd say I can't be held responsible 'Cause she was touching her face And I won't be held responsible She fell in love in the first place For the life of me I cannot remember What made us think that we were wise and we'd never compromise For the life of me I cannot believe we'd ever die for these sins We were merely freshmen For the life of me I cannot remember What made us think that we were wise and we'd never compromise For the life of me I cannot believe we'd ever die for these sins We were merely freshmen We were merely freshmen We were merely freshmen We were only freshmen
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#157
06-09-2006, 04:11 AM
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Suck it up. You took a year off and they covered for you and this is the price you have to pay. You have to start off again at the bottom of the ladder, work your way back up and prove yourself all over again. You did it once you can do it again. I hope you enjoyed your year off. [/ QUOTE ]
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#158
06-09-2006, 06:33 AM
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[ QUOTE ] at this point, i have nothing to lose. [/ QUOTE ] Your dignity? I don't think calling out the person is the correct move unless it involves the district superintendent. Remember - everyone has a boss. Go to hers. [/ QUOTE ] TT, you're right, and it is BECAUSE of my dignity that i have to have this meeting and potentially confront TAP. i can only take so much screwing before i have to speak up. also, i want them to be fully aware that they are not fostering a healthy work environment, as i am working with 2 people who made absolutely no effort to be reasonable and compromise. sure, i am supposed to be a professional and rise above these things, but i am human and a man can take only so much.
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#159
06-09-2006, 08:28 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] at this point, i have nothing to lose. [/ QUOTE ] Your dignity? I don't think calling out the person is the correct move unless it involves the district superintendent. Remember - everyone has a boss. Go to hers. [/ QUOTE ] TT, you're right, and it is BECAUSE of my dignity that i have to have this meeting and potentially confront TAP. i can only take so much screwing before i have to speak up. also, i want them to be fully aware that they are not fostering a healthy work environment, as i am working with 2 people who made absolutely no effort to be reasonable and compromise. sure, i am supposed to be a professional and rise above these things, but i am human and a man can take only so much. [/ QUOTE ] You are beng professional by speaking out. "to rise above these things" and not speak out is really saying you would be letting them get away with it. To not speak out would be a path of 'go along to get along', while that may be the easy way out, it is not in the best interest of the kids you serve, nor yourself. You are dealing with a couple of crazies and at least one (TNG) self serving guy. It is unfortunate that in the meetign where you were met with non-respponsiveness that you did not demand a response (in a civil way). but that time is past. I am not sure exactly how to best bring the subject back into the open, but you have nothing left to lose. TAP hates you. Probably because of your relationship with her predecessor, and her instability. The situation needs exposure to a larger audience. Your last meeting only included the two crazies and the self interest guy. Are there any reasonable people in the chain of command? I'm glad you are not letting them get away with this. And they might.
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#160
06-09-2006, 12:04 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] at this point, i have nothing to lose. [/ QUOTE ] Your dignity? I don't think calling out the person is the correct move unless it involves the district superintendent. Remember - everyone has a boss. Go to hers. [/ QUOTE ] TT, you're right, and it is BECAUSE of my dignity that i have to have this meeting and potentially confront TAP. i can only take so much screwing before i have to speak up. also, i want them to be fully aware that they are not fostering a healthy work environment, as i am working with 2 people who made absolutely no effort to be reasonable and compromise. sure, i am supposed to be a professional and rise above these things, but i am human and a man can take only so much. [/ QUOTE ] You are beng professional by speaking out. "to rise above these things" and not speak out is really saying you would be letting them get away with it. To not speak out would be a path of 'go along to get along', while that may be the easy way out, it is not in the best interest of the kids you serve, nor yourself. You are dealing with a couple of crazies and at least one (TNG) self serving guy. It is unfortunate that in the meetign where you were met with non-respponsiveness that you did not demand a response (in a civil way). but that time is past. I am not sure exactly how to best bring the subject back into the open, but you have nothing left to lose. TAP hates you. Probably because of your relationship with her predecessor, and her instability. The situation needs exposure to a larger audience. Your last meeting only included the two crazies and the self interest guy. Are there any reasonable people in the chain of command? I'm glad you are not letting them get away with this. And they might. [/ QUOTE ] they are going to get away with this, as it is likely nothing will change. but they are going to have to tell me why they have screwed me, and they are going to made aware of my feelings on the issue.
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