Admitting you were wrong

geormiet · #1 06-02-2006, 04:47 PM

Has anyone on 2p2 ever seen a poster admit he/she was wrong? I'm pretty sure it never has happened. Someone find me a link to a post where this occurs, to prove me wrong. (I will deny it)

thirddan · #2 06-02-2006, 04:52 PM

do you mean something like you read a hand and think that you should call, but then after more people post you agree that you should raise? if so then it happens a lot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

i have even done it once or fifty times...

geormiet · #3 06-02-2006, 04:53 PM

Yes that's exactly what I am talking about, and I don't think i've ever seen it happen.

jba · #4 06-02-2006, 05:00 PM

"So, I stand before you, beaten and war torn, in submission.
I never thought I would say this, but alas pride is the deadly sin in poker, I was wrong."

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Mister Z · #5 06-02-2006, 05:05 PM

There was that one thread a while back in Mid or High Stakes LHE where a guy came back months later to say he was wrong about his sample size assertions. He originally argued that his sample size of 10-20K hands proved that he was a winner and then came back after 80K hands having gone le busto. It was one of the bigger "I was wrong" instances I've seen around here.

MicroBob · #6 06-02-2006, 05:21 PM

Back when I was actually working more seriously on my game and reading and posting my strategy observations I would try to approach various aspects with an open-mind.

I've had some situations where I thought it was in the 'not even close' camp. And then, through other posters whom I respect, came around to 'okay, good point. maybe it is closer' and then swayed to 'yeah, I think your way is better'.

Does this count? I think it does.

I think the players who are going to improve the most on here are the ones who are able to accept the advice of those who are smarter than them.

And I think it happens way more often than you seem to think.

Arnfinn Madsen · #7 06-02-2006, 05:33 PM

It seems like the players who are considered to be the best are willing to admit it all the time, which can lead to interesting conclusions..... In the high stakes and medium stakes limit forums there is quite much of it (which makes those forums a great place for discussion (not contributing much, as I don't have much to add)). Players playing small stakes and thinking they have figured things out annoyed me so much that I quit reading those forums (as no player who is very good would bother to play those stakes (I do it often, but I am not very good)). Those with that mentality will NEVER, I repeat NEVER get very good in ANYTHING, never seen it in poker, never seen in sport, never seen it business, in short: never going to happen. I have semicoached some friends in poker, and the first and most important step is to make them admit they suck (in a polite way), only then can they realize how much effort they actually need to put into the game to get good.

tom10167 · #8 06-02-2006, 05:36 PM

I did it, I posted a hand in 10-20 where I 3bet 88 on a JT98 board

The board the river, which is what's important.

smoothraise · #9 06-02-2006, 09:51 PM

I have done it. Although, I didnt say "I was wrong," specifically. I have said "You are correct. I see my error."

I do think it happens more than you think. Specially in the strategy forums.

It is very common for someone to admit to being wrong. Sometimes, during discussion, it becomes obvious that a point one made is now improved, obsolete, or incorrect. It is not always necessary for that person to come back and state the obvious to apoligize. It is many times better for the whole group if the focus is kept on the current events of the debate. Someone being wrong is often the start of greater discussion.

smoothraise · #10 06-02-2006, 09:58 PM

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It seems like the players who are considered to be the best are willing to admit it all the time, which can lead to interesting conclusions..... In the high stakes and medium stakes limit forums there is quite much of it (which makes those forums a great place for discussion (not contributing much, as I don't have much to add)). Players playing small stakes and thinking they have figured things out annoyed me so much that I quit reading those forums (as no player who is very good would bother to play those stakes (I do it often, but I am not very good)). Those with that mentality will NEVER, I repeat NEVER get very good in ANYTHING, never seen it in poker, never seen in sport, never seen it business, in short: never going to happen. I have semicoached some friends in poker, and the first and most important step is to make them admit they suck (in a polite way), only then can they realize how much effort they actually need to put into the game to get good.

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Maxim much?