Home Defense Options.

[El Ishmael]

#1 recommended option is posting the techniques you plan to use on a public forum.

[Elevens]

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Dog.

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I agree.

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Ditto.

I have Doberman (see avatar). She's a big wimp, but you wouldn't know that if you broke into our house and she started pretending like she was a tough Dobe.

[george w]

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why not just surrender everything?

if somebody broke into my place, i'd call the cops and then just sit and wait for them. there is nothing i would defend with my life, except for another human being. i think the chances are slim to none that a burglar would try to harm you if you stayed out of their way.

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This could go in another thread, but this is one thing I really disagree with. A LOT if not everyone is going to call me stupid, but I get pissed when someon [censored] with something that I worked for, or that is mine. I dont care if it is an inanimate object or not, but I would defend my things, money, cars, jewelery, etc even as far as to kill someone who tried to take them. They are mine, I value my stuff over the life of some douchebag criminal. If I had a situation where someone was messing with my car, or in my apartment, I wouldnt hesitate to silently pull a trigger killing them.

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i'll bite. would you kill someone over $5? $100? $1000? what's the cutoff? i'd like an exact number here.

[milliondollaz]

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Double barrel shotgun. You don't even have to buy any bullets. Once they hear you cock that thing, they'll get the hell out of there asap

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close enough. get a pump action shotgun. my SWAT team uncle reccomends this for two reasons.

1. the distinctive sound of chambering a round.
2. the fact that shotguns 'spread' so your trembling arms don't need to accuratly aim.
2.5 they can go through walls/doors

if you don't want a gun at all, you are allowing your intruders to determine the level with which to take their actions. they MIGHT not want to kill you and your family. but if they do, you have no defence. by bringing a gun into the equation, you are def. bringing it to a new level (don't pull a gun real or fake if you arn't prepared to use it cause it will just get you killed) but you are now in control of the situation.

i would choose the control over the risk.

tazer is the worst idea ever, cause then you have to let the joker get up and walk away, or stay w/in a cords lenght of him to keep shocking him, praying your batteries don't die or he doesn't rip his electrodes out. plus he will be even more pissed at your acceptably scared butt.

[Low Limit Loser]

I'd like to defend my idiot assertion that a paintball gun MAY be of some use vs an intruder without a gun.

1) I went paintballing once in a coverted warehouse. I rented a gun from them and they clocked it at "200" I assume feet per second but who knows. It hurt like hell from less than 30 feet and people were only allowed to use single shot guns (pull the trigger, 1 ball comes out. repeat as necessary).

Some guys had guns that were fully automatic and could go 2 or 3 times faster than my "200 fps". They were required to change settings to get it single shot and 200.

before a match, these guys were goofing around with their guns on full automatic and it sounded like a tommy gun (least what I expect a tommy gun to sound like and these balls were moving painfully fast)

So I'm thinking

1) What If I used rubber balls?
2) what If I used balls filled with habanero juice or somesuch thing?

If it was kinda dark and a villain hears what sounds like a machine gun. He KNOWS he's hit and his clothes are wet, would he THINK he was shot? Would he run like a deer. Would he continue up the stairs?

I also like the idea that I can miss a bunch and still hit them enough times to make a dent.

LLL

[XXXNoahXXX]

1)Paintball gun with marbles is deadly. However, if they have a gun they will kill you. If they see you pointing something at them, by the time you can see if they have a gun, you'll be getting shot. Paintball is awesome as a hobby, btw.

2)I would buy a handgun and put it in a Biometric fingerpint sensor safe next to your bed. This way you're not fumbling with a key and don't have to worry about the kids finding the key.

My only concern would be thinking I hear a prowler, it being my kid banging around sleepwalking, and I shoot him. THis is why I would never want a gun in my home.

Just get a really loud alarm and a tazer plus pepper spray.

[ddubois]

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shot gun with fingerprint trigger gaurd

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Whoa, didn't know such a thing existed. Awesome.

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would you kill someone over $5? $100? $1000? what's the cutoff? i'd like an exact number here.

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In my house? $0.

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tazer is the worst idea ever, cause then you have to let the joker get up and walk away, or stay w/in a cords lenght of him to keep shocking him, praying your batteries don't die or he doesn't rip his electrodes out.

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It's not like villan can jump right up good as new after the shock is applied, correct? I mean, you have a few minutes of his semi-paralysis to pat him down for a weapon and tie him up or in some manner incapacitate him, correct?

[guids]

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why not just surrender everything?

if somebody broke into my place, i'd call the cops and then just sit and wait for them. there is nothing i would defend with my life, except for another human being. i think the chances are slim to none that a burglar would try to harm you if you stayed out of their way.

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This could go in another thread, but this is one thing I really disagree with. A LOT if not everyone is going to call me stupid, but I get pissed when someon [censored] with something that I worked for, or that is mine. I dont care if it is an inanimate object or not, but I would defend my things, money, cars, jewelery, etc even as far as to kill someone who tried to take them. They are mine, I value my stuff over the life of some douchebag criminal. If I had a situation where someone was messing with my car, or in my apartment, I wouldnt hesitate to silently pull a trigger killing them.

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i'll bite. would you kill someone over $5? $100? $1000? what's the cutoff? i'd like an exact number here.

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I dont think there is an exact number, its a situational thing. I have never had someone break into my house, but if it did happen, Id have no hesitation in taking my gun out and shooting them, that is what it is there for. If you do not go hunting, there should be no reason to own one imo. I dont care if they are trying to steal bread for their poor family, if they are in my house, and I do not know them, they get shot. I did actually catch someone breaking into my car, Im sitting on my front porch smoking a spliff, and two kids walk down the street and start going through my wrangler. About 20 yards away. The didnt see us until we snuck up on them. My buddy punched one in the back of the head, and I grabbed the other, they were like 13 though and just douchebags, so we put them in my car and drove them to their parents house, rather than call the cops, and explained what happened to their parents. It depends on the split second decision, but im going to err on pulling the trigger if someone is in my house, and err on not pulling if its my car etc. Having someone break into my place specifically is going to note planning and premeditation due to what I hvae going on business wise.

Plus if someone is in your house it is legal to shoot them, otherwise its not. If someone is trying to mug me, Im not giving [censored] up w/o a fight. Stupid, yes, but I never claimed to be smart.

[Peter666]

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I'd like to defend my idiot assertion that a paintball gun MAY be of some use vs an intruder without a gun.

1) I went paintballing once in a coverted warehouse. I rented a gun from them and they clocked it at "200" I assume feet per second but who knows. It hurt like hell from less than 30 feet and people were only allowed to use single shot guns (pull the trigger, 1 ball comes out. repeat as necessary).

Some guys had guns that were fully automatic and could go 2 or 3 times faster than my "200 fps". They were required to change settings to get it single shot and 200.

before a match, these guys were goofing around with their guns on full automatic and it sounded like a tommy gun (least what I expect a tommy gun to sound like and these balls were moving painfully fast)

So I'm thinking

1) What If I used rubber balls?
2) what If I used balls filled with habanero juice or somesuch thing?

If it was kinda dark and a villain hears what sounds like a machine gun. He KNOWS he's hit and his clothes are wet, would he THINK he was shot? Would he run like a deer. Would he continue up the stairs?

I also like the idea that I can miss a bunch and still hit them enough times to make a dent.

LLL

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What if the intruder is pumped up on drugs and doesn't react to being hit by paintballs? Only a head or spine shot with a gun will stop him.

What if the intruders are armed and you find yourself in a real life gun fight....with a paintball gun. Don't bring a paintball gun to a gun fight.

What if you hit the intruders, they realize you have a paintball gun, and then shield themselves to get to you? Hitting me with a paintball gun would piss me off more than scare me off.

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