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With the preflop odds though, it's way different than getting 11:1 calling a full SB in the BB, for example. You are putting in 1/3 of a SB now, so your implied odds are much, much better. It's like a situation where you might complete in a 1/2 blind structure vs. a limper, then fold to BB's raise still getting 5:1. [/ QUOTE ] That's not true, because draws are a significant amount of equity and getting the same odds just means we have fewer players in the hand seeing the flop. I'd say it's a wash and/or worse off with fewer players. It's similar to the situation of how equity goes up for high cards the more shorthanded a game gets, and our draws and low pairs become significantly less lucrative to play, especially if our postflop is only so-so. Some of the Pohl articles point that out if you don't happen to be a shorthanded player. |
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#12
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[ QUOTE ] 11-1 isn't quite odds to even play offsuited connectors according to that pokerstove jackass, [/ QUOTE ] Is that pokerstove article valid? I had a glance at it and the math that I saw seemed to be ok, but his advice seemed too tight to me. [/ QUOTE ] I don't take it as gospel, but he's a good pro and it looked ok to me. I was just pointing it out as a benchmark that I know a lot of people use as a general guideline. Personally I'm quite a bit looser than 11:1 with the lower unsuited connectors, but that's a preflop leak I'm sure. |
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#13
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11-1 isn't quite odds to even play offsuited connectors according to that pokerstove jackass, so I still think it's a mistake. And with an aggressive BB, that cost becomes prohibitive. I think it's misleading because the extra 1/3SB doesn't look like much, but the odds it gives you aren't fantastic for a lot of trash. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. Stove isn't useful because it's a hot cold sim for 5 cards. We only see 3 cards but based on that we generally have enough info to play the hand well. I call 100% with 2 limpers. Krishan |
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