Thoughts Regarding the Maniac Rebuy Strategy

[Rickyroodido]

Im pushing any 2, because I wont get knocked out and its fun. I havent even thought about it in terms of EV since all investments probably are +EV in rebuy tournements. Atleast 40% of the field is deadmoney(in pokerstars 25 and 40k).
In my experience you just need to follow the gapconcept to get into a 70:30 situation in the sekond hour, and with a healthy stack your almost ITM after that (if the donk has you covered that is).

Im have been ridiculously lucky in rebuys lately which might have made me overestimate the beatability of them, but these are my perception right know... since im human and results oriented. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[raptor517]

i shove every hand in the 11r until i have 9kish. its fun. i dont care if i blow 200 bucks on it. sometimes i have 30k after the first break. its not a significant portion of my roll, and is really fun and relaxing. also, i give a ton of chips to a bunch of terrible players i can get them back from relatively easily. sure, its -cev. i dont even think that is disputable. however the point isnt to save 17 extra dollars on average per 11r tournament. it is to build a gigantic stack and drag the first place money. i like being called an idiot apparently. holla

[nath]

I do & my screen name there is Cap'nJackpot.

[allenciox]

I have done quite a bit of thinking about this and this is my strategy:

1) If my table has a few maniacs at it already, I will limp-reraise all-in with very good hands (e.g. JJ-AA, AK,AQ). But otherwise I stay out of their way. Usually they are happy to call me (unless they are already all-in themselves, of course). If I just bet all-in, this seems to fool nobody, but the limp-reraise works great.

2) If my table is tight with no maniacs, I will play the maniac going all-in with junk once and showing my hand when everybody folds. If that still fails to loosen the table, I will do the same thing again about an orbit later (always in late position or blinds, after limpers). This sets them up for when I do it later with a real hand.

[nath]

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A weak player who gets lucky in the first hour and accumulates 40K in chips is no more likely to make the money than a solid player who slowly increases his stack round by round.

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But a player like me, whose best strengths are preflop play -- steals and resteals and such-- and who can flounder in the second hour with the super-deep stacks against players who have really wide hand ranges, having that 40k allows me to survive that much longer until the stakes are such that I can play my game again. I either have to get lucky in the first hour or in the second and third hours, so why not give getting lucky a shot while I can still rebuy if I lose?

Like I said, the maniac strategy allows me to have a shot at winning because it compensates for my other weaknesses. When I get better at deep stack play, extracting value out of marginal hands, and assigning ranges to opponents and playing appropriately, it won't be as necessary.

[betgo]

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A weak player who gets lucky in the first hour and accumulates 40K in chips is no more likely to make the money than a solid player who slowly increases his stack round by round.

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But a player like me, whose best strengths are preflop play -- steals and resteals and such-- and who can flounder in the second hour with the super-deep stacks against players who have really wide hand ranges, having that 40k allows me to survive that much longer until the stakes are such that I can play my game again. I either have to get lucky in the first hour or in the second and third hours, so why not give getting lucky a shot while I can still rebuy if I lose?

Like I said, the maniac strategy allows me to have a shot at winning because it compensates for my other weaknesses. When I get better at deep stack play, extracting value out of marginal hands, and assigning ranges to opponents and playing appropriately, it won't be as necessary.

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If your strength is preflop play, why play a deep stack tournament like an online rebuy? There are plenty of fast structure tournaments available.

[nath]

1)Practice at deep stack events / flop play and beyond
2)These events have been profitable for me

I have trouble with the marginal spots when I'm really deep and against decent players. My solution has been to quit LAGging it up in the second hour and just wait for the players who will overbet all-in to "protect" bad hands to come to me.

I'm much better posflop after I've been playing with my opponents for a while and get an idea of their hand ranges. In the second hour most people are still so loose that this isn't the case.

[betgo]

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1)Practice at deep stack events / flop play and beyond
2)These events have been profitable for me

I have trouble with the marginal spots when I'm really deep and against decent players. My solution has been to quit LAGging it up in the second hour and just wait for the players who will overbet all-in to "protect" bad hands to come to me.

I'm much better posflop after I've been playing with my opponents for a while and get an idea of their hand ranges. In the second hour most people are still so loose that this isn't the case.

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My impressions of the 2nd hour of online rebuys is that the play is extremely wild preflop and postflop. I usually play very tight and try to trap people, which is similar to how I play in the rebuy period.

The postflop play is tricky because most of the players will go allin is stages after the flop, whether or not they have anything. I have played from $3 to $200 onlne rebuys and this is more true at lower buyins, but true at all levels to some extent.

[TripDaddy]

i love the strategy. I played it last night for the first time and had a blast. WAYYYYYY more fun then squeezing, waiting for a big hand.

Can't wait to play again tonight!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[jii]

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1) If my table has a few maniacs at it already, I will limp-reraise all-in with very good hands (e.g. JJ-AA, AK,AQ). But otherwise I stay out of their way. Usually they are happy to call me (unless they are already all-in themselves, of course). If I just bet all-in, this seems to fool nobody, but the limp-reraise works great.


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I've tried out something similar. Key idea is to recognize the maniacs, which can't be very hard. Then I just try to get HU all-in with them with my good hands. This is pretty easy, if no one else in the table is willing to go preflop AI.