Value bet river?

[johnbeans]

I think a value bet on the river is in order. A friend of mine believes the only hands that are calling are the ones that have us beat, and also doesn't want to deal with a check-raise. This is a $22 deep stack tournament on stars.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t3025)
CO (t1840)
Hero (t7330)
SB (t8570)
BB (t4305)
UTG (t4060)
UTG+1 (t10780)
MP1 (t9670)

Preflop: Hero is with K <font color="red"> </font> d 5 <font color="black"> </font> c,
MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks .

Flop: (pot 600) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (pot 600) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t600</font>, SB calls t600, BB folds, MP2 folds.

River: (pot 1800) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero ???

[adanthar]

If you don't know the answer to this question (and it's REALLY easy), don't limp K5o PF.

Actually, just don't limp it PF period, saves time.

[PokerJokerAA]

did you bet 3x pot on turn?

[Bolero]

Why would you not consider value-betting this hand, do you smell a trap? Lots of worse hands out there will call. You're going to call a bet, so why not put one out there?

[johnbeans]

This hand wasn't played by me, but I think limping in on an unraised pot on the button is fine with almost any two. The action was checked around the flop, it was checked to the hero on the turn, where Hero made a PSB, SB calls, SB checks the river.

[DiamondAce]

Why didn't you bet on the flop? You should only play any two on the button if you know how to play them correctly postflop.

Value bet the river. There's no flush and only one straight possibility. You have a pretty strong hand.

[johnbeans]

My friends arguement for not value betting the river is that only hands that beat K-5 are calling on the river. Also with a slightly average stack going for a cheap showdown isn't too terrible since getting check-raised all-in would put us in a very hard spot. With that said I'm in favor of a value bet, but my friend is not. I think the range of hands that we are ahead of that will call a value bet is fairly large Jacks up, any King, QQ, and possibly strong Jacks. We're really only worried about a better two pair or a set, and I just don't think those hands are very likely given the way this played out.

[flyingmoose]

I would bet a substantial amount on the river. Probably 1200-1500.

Why would you even consider checking 2-pair on the river against an opponent who has shown no strength when the river is extremely unlikely to have helped your opponent?

[adanthar]

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My friends arguement for not value betting the river is that only hands that beat K-5 are calling on the river.

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[andre006]

with a flop like that, nobody moves to protect a hand from a flush draw is an easy bet on the river