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Old 04-23-2006, 12:33 AM
samoleus samoleus is offline
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Default Re: when to call a habitual pusher

It is a good discussion point. I think that if I could tighten my standards without him adjusting his, it would be ideal. But it would be really bad to lose him as a customer and while I am not certain if he would have slowed down, I didn't want to take the risk.
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Old 04-23-2006, 12:40 AM
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Do you think this is the best way to keep him around? Or keep him playing comparably?
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Old 04-23-2006, 12:40 AM
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Although correct in this case, I think my A-6 call might have been a little on the thin side. I think if the identical situation were magically to present itself in the future, I would call with 66 and up for pairs - and A8, maybe A7. KQ probably, KJ unlikely.
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Old 04-23-2006, 12:41 AM
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I think that if I don't pounce on a plus EV situation soon, someone else at the table will - after which he may stop doing this ...
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Old 04-23-2006, 12:53 AM
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Old 04-23-2006, 12:53 AM
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bluff - i'm not talking about tourney vs cash. obv. ev is ev. my point being that if my edge is greater than A6o (i call) vs. his KJ, I probably shouldn't make this call regularly since if he gets "lucky", I now have to reload, I don't cover him, and he will probably give away my stack quicker to others before I have a chance to get it back. Even if I was better than EVERYONE at the table (which I'm not) it's still me in a race with 4 other players...it just doesn't seem optimal, obv. I have no numbers to back up my claims, i also happen to tilt pretty hard so it's probably smarter for me not to run and gun like this with fish.
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Old 04-23-2006, 12:59 AM
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that is a good point: I just couldn't resist. Not plus EV I am afraid ...
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Old 04-23-2006, 01:00 AM
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I'm just curious....When this happened, did you type anything into the chatbox, and if so, what? I sure hope you needled him somehow [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 04-23-2006, 01:03 AM
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AZK, I had almost 14K, so I could have doubled him up a couple of times and still covered him. But if I had doubled him up, I am unsure if he would push with a 4K stack. ... I do agree that if you are prone to tilt, you should not make these kind of calls. But if you can call, lose a huge pot, and keep playing your game (in which you clearly have an edge over most), I think it is better to make the thin calls if you think they are right. ... That being said, I think it is very astute and mature to consider your propensity to tilt when considering making these thin calls.
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Old 04-23-2006, 01:05 AM
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He sits down and my table and in the first two orbits, fires off all manner of profane tirades and tells me all kinds of things that I never knew about my mother and nonexistent sister.

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Screw that....I'm all for being a gentleman, not crying about beats, not berating fish, etc.....But as soon as somebody starts attacking me personally it's all fair game.
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