Study: Did a 757 hit the Pentagon?

[Cumulonimbus]

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If you believe the more wacko conspiracy theories, you have to believe that they not only fired a missile at the Pentagon, but somehow made an airliner plus crew and passengers disappear, and that they flew planes into the world trade center towers and explosively demolished them and wtc 7.


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Yes, that's the alternative to beleiving that ragheads with boxcutters took over planes full of people who were more scared of the boxcutters than dying in a plane crash, that a passport of one the terrorists magically floated out of his pocket, out of the plane, out of the monstrous ball of fire, out of the building, and onto the ground where it was still intact. You also gotta believe that the 16-foot pre-collapse hole was caused by a 757, that Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC, was lying when he said on video that "we pulled the building," and that instead a fire on two floors could cause a 47 story building to collapse. Regarding that, you'd also have to believe that the fire-fighters have psychic powers and can know exactly, to the second, when the building's going to fall. I can keep going, if ya want.

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What was the purpose of demolishing wtc7 long after the plane crash + demolition of the main towers?


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Glad you asked. I'm sure you didn't know this, but Larry Silverstein took out a $2.2 billion insurance claim on the entire WTC complex just weeks before 9/11. He made $500 million off building 7 alone!

Also, the government had offices for the IRS, the EEOC, the US Secret Service, the SEC, and the CIA - all in building 7.
Sweet! Larry gets new buildings and the government agencies get new offices!

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Come on folks, this is silly. If you expect me to believe that the collapse of the main towers wasn't a direct result of the planes crashing into the towers and the massive jet fuel fires that followed, show me some evidence.


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Well, I already showed you some evidence for building 7. You can look up the other buildings if it pleases you, there's hundreds of good pages out there on this very subject.

[CORed]

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The picture you show is the after-effects, when the roof caved-in----not the initial impact!
Also, where is the fire-charred lawn?
Where are the engines?
Where is the black box?

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Gee, I don't know, maybe inside the Pentagon? But of course that's just the government telling us that and you've already decided everything they say is a lie, so if some wacko with a web site says the engines were never found, that's who you believe.

I guess we need to fly about 50 757's into the Pentagon under controlled conditions to convince people that it really happened. Of course the real wackos will claim it was all faked, even if the damage is pretty much duplicated.

[Cumulonimbus]

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I would say that the fact that the web site doctored the pictures shows that they are much more interested in supporting their silly conspiracy theories than finding the truth.

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Are you referring to my original post? The photo I used for my image is completely undoctored.

[SheenFan]

Very well-done!!!
I'm on those brainwaves.
Maybe others will look at reason, instead of spewing nonsense that they can't see through.

[RedBean]

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Also, where is the fire-charred lawn?


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The plane hit the Pentagon, not the lawn. I think we can both agree that the section of the pentagon hit is "fire-charred".

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Where are the engines?


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Engine wreckage was recovered from inside the pentagon.

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Where is the black box?

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Both black boxes were recovered.

Link ->
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/..._bt425-01.html


Not that I answered your questions, Mr. Conspiracy, bother taking a shot at the ones you keep dodging.....If your so sure Flight 77 didn't hit the pentagon, then please tell us what you think hit it instead, and explain to us where you claim Flight 77 and passengers went in lieu of the Pentagon?

Of course, that question can't be answered logically by conspiracy nuts, it's where the conspiracy theory starts to unravel, and pretty much where the discussion starts going in circles, and me thinks your more of a troll looking to get a rise than logically discuss it.

It is proposed that Flight 77 hit the pentagon, and overwhelming evidence shows that to be true. If you propose otherwise, then tell us where flight 77 went instead.

[SheenFan]

Did you see inside the pentagon? NO!
did you hear the contents of the black boxes? NO!
Did you see the plane's engines? NO!
But you read about all of this and believe it.
And for God's sake, why did they confiscate the videos from the nearby citgo station and the sheraton hotel?

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Jesus Christ. Not again.

Stop.

[RedBean]

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Did you see inside the pentagon? NO!
did you hear the contents of the black boxes? NO!
Did you see the plane's engines? NO!
But you read about all of this and believe it.

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So the conspiracy theory argument basically boils down to "Since RedBean didn't see it first hand, then it didn't happen."

Alrighty then.

I ask again:

1. What are you proposing hit the pentagon instead?
2. Where is Flight 77 if it didn't hit the Pentagon?

[Cumulonimbus]

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ons, Mr. Conspiracy, bother taking a shot at the ones you keep dodging.....If your so sure Flight 77 didn't hit the pentagon, then please tell us what you think hit it instead, and explain to us where you claim Flight 77 and passengers went in lieu of the Pentagon?


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Dodging? Sorry buddy, I'm sticking to the more important issues here. But I'll humor you here. Where did flight 77 go? I have no idea. How would I know? All I do know is the government has the power to do a lot of things with it. They could have gassed the passengers pre-flight and not destroyed the plane. They could have flown the plane into the ocean. Who knows? Next time, ask yourself these questions and save me the effort.

By the way, the engine wreckage you mentioned does not match up to the actual engine parts on one of the two engines in the 757. The black boxes were "found," but the government confiscated them and won't let anybody have access.

Oh yeah, [censored] you. You say I'm trying to get a rise and not logically discuss it? Phh, check my posts again buddy. And then check yours. You call names, you label, you get all worked up about it. I only talk about evidence. YOU are the troll here.

[SheenFan]

I could say it has indications that a missile struck; how they diverted Flight 77, i can't answer.
But please tell me why they won't release the actual videos?
They have them you know.