Hand against Surfbullet

[Grisgra]

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I AM RETARDED. I READ THE HAND WRONG. I THOUGHT WE HAD A FLUSH EVEN THOUGH OP CLEARLY SAID "I have no spades.".

So, yeah. Just call.

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I almost made the same mistake [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. If we had spades, I raise here and probably (?) cap if given the chance. I really expect we'd have heard from a flush or two pair/a set on the turn.

[Magikist]

No, Cartman's not right. Giving a frequent poster "immunity" is hypocritcal and a double standard. We name particular opponents by their handles all the time in this forum and discuss their tendencies. Are we operating under the assumption always that they are not posters? Just because a player is a frequent poster doesn't mean he should be treated differently. In fact, Surf has taken great advantage of these forums and such a privilege would be patently unfair. Especially in light of the fact that's he's made his handle known and posts so many hands, he should expect to have his tendencies become publicly known. That's the risk EVERYONE assumes on this forum.

All players should be treated equally. Surf is no different than any other player at the 10/20, in the regard that if he is an opponent in a hand, to properly analyze the poster's line of play one must address his tendencies, and he should be treated no differently than anyone else.

Furthermore, one person's perception of a tendency is by no means necessarily accurate and the promulgation of this perception may even work to Surf's advantage.

Why is discussion of one of Surf's qualities as a player any different then any other kinds of discussions about players that we have every day on this forum?

Finally, this is a public forum and should be subject to the least amount of censorship as possible.

[Keepitsimple]

From reading these boards surfbullet comes across as a very standard player. Standard players play passively OOP with marginal hands. The info isnt that important imo. In fact playing passively OOP with medium pairs is so frequent that its probably redundant information. Especially considering surfbullets posts in this forum.

FWIW I also play passively OOP with marginal holdings.

[Kyle]

Like any good player I am sure surf mixes his play up. Just giving my intial read on the villian in the hand so other posters have the same info I had when making a decision. Also by posting as much as surf does he gives way more away about his play and tendencies than one general statement could ever say. On to the rest of the post though....

Yeah sorry for the confusion in the OP but I do NOT have a flush.

My initial reaction here was to fold. What is his range here? And why if lets say he has a four or a smaller pair such as fives or sixes is he betting the river? Does he expect me to pay off with A high on a 3 flush paired board. Also if he had a J or eights or nines I would have heard from them by now I think. A Jack with a weak kicker is a maybe.

So am I really going to be good here 20% of the time against a good thinking player?

[Grisgra]

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So am I really going to be good here 20% of the time against a good thinking player?

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He's a TAG. He knows you're a TAG. As a general rule, that means that at a minimum 10% of his odd-looking plays will be goofy bluffs. I don't think folding here would be a tragedy, but I think that it's marginally +EV to call. It's a raggy board, he could donk here trying to chase you off of A-high, or even a medium pocket. Probably not, but I think you have odds to call.

[Surf]

Hey Kyle,

I think the river is a call, both vs me and vs other 2er TAGs, since your raise will have very little value, and you open yourself up to a 3bet, which you may or may not call.

Surf

[Surf]

FWIW, I don't mind being talked about on the forum, or having my game dissected. It's kind of interesting to see how other's view me.

I am in a particular situation, though. If I made a post saying "Hand vs 2er Magikist" and then in the post said "magikist's handle is XXXX" i'm pretty sure you'd be upset about that type of breach of information, and rightly so.

Unfortunately, most of the poker sites I registered with early on don't allow name changes, so my handle is relatively obvious on many sites. Being able to associate player X on Site Y as 2+2er Surf is quite an advantage, since you may be privy to inside information about my game without me being aware you are using this information, since I don't know you from Adam.

Surf

[Kyle]

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I am in a particular situation, though. If I made a post saying "Hand vs 2er Magikist" and then in the post said "magikist's handle is XXXX" i'm pretty sure you'd be upset about that type of breach of information, and rightly so.

Unfortunately, most of the poker sites I registered with early on don't allow name changes, so my handle is relatively obvious on many sites. Being able to associate player X on Site Y as 2+2er Surf is quite an advantage, since you may be privy to inside information about my game without me being aware you are using this information, since I don't know you from Adam.

Surf

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I couldnt agree more.

[Grisgra]

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So am I really going to be good here 20% of the time against a good thinking player?

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Make up your mind -- I thought Surf was the villain in this hand.

Thank you, I'll be here all week.

[Surf]

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So am I really going to be good here 20% of the time against a good thinking player?

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Make up your mind -- I thought Surf was the villain in this hand.

Thank you, I'll be here all week.

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OMG HU?

Surf