1st Post... ROI, ITM drop due to multitableing

[allaboutheu]

I have been reading these forums for a few months but decided to make my first post today. I play predominanty STT and am now at the $22 level buy ins. I know the advantages to multitableing and would like to give it a try, but im curious what kind of drops I can expect in ROI and ITM. The other thing I am worried about is that a good deal of my play is read dependent. I'm afraid playing 2 tables at once would take away some of my reading skills. Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated, thank you.

[rvg72]

It will definately drop - how much depends on many factors which are different for each person. For me, my single tabling ROI when I'm playing on my laptop is about twice as high as my 4 tabling ROI.

Regarding reads, what you will find when you multi-table is that you play way fewer hands and reads become less and less important. Using a HUD should give you almost all of the info you need.

rvg

[FoldYourLife]

You will probably feel like you are missing out on some things when you start to multitable, but pretty soon it becomes second nature. As long as you are playing solid and pushbotting properly, your $/hour will go up even when you sacrifice a little ROI.

[Slim Pickens]

The answer is different for everyone. At first, you'll be overwhelmed by two tables and wonder how anyone does it. Your ROI will drop some. Then you'll get used to it. By the time you work up to 4-6 tables, playing one table will be so boring your ROI will probably drop from lack of focus. 4 tables should be playable for just about anyone while still allowing for full attention to the games. Just try it. If you're beating the 22's at all, multitabling them shouldn't turn you into a loser.

For me, Poker Tracker+PokerAceHUD=reads.

[AliasMrJones]

With regard to reads:

1. Use Pokertracker + PokerAceHUD to get stats overlayed on the tables.

2. Get a big monitor. I have the Dell 2001FP 20" LCD which can show 4 full-size tables with no overlap. You'll soon find it easy to move your attention to the table with action and I am able to take notes on people while I 4-table.

[JasonRball]

I am new to multi-tabling also.....move to 2 tables........very very easy and you can still read fine. Dont browse the net...dont watch tv...just concentrate.

I would do about >200 like this and then move to 3 tables for >200 and so on. I think 4 tabling is very reasonable for most people.......but you will find some drop in ITM......

It really depends on what you are comfortable with and what is more important per/hour or ITM or ROI.

Trial and error.

Here is an example of how you could.

20 tournies a day for 20 days = $8800 buy in x 10% ROI $880

4 tabling the $22s for 5-6 hours a day (5 sets of 4)

That is my goal but I dot have the BR yet....still hanging in the 11s....so sad....plus i have to work 40 hrs...so it is near impossible

[DevinLake]

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I have been reading these forums for a few months but decided to make my first post today. I play predominanty STT and am now at the $22 level buy ins. I know the advantages to multitableing and would like to give it a try, but im curious what kind of drops I can expect in ROI and ITM. The other thing I am worried about is that a good deal of my play is read dependent. I'm afraid playing 2 tables at once would take away some of my reading skills. Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated, thank you.

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I like this post. You see so many post about 4+ tabling the $11s, and I just don't think that is a good idea. I slowly worked my way from 1 table to 4 tables, and 4 is where I plan to stay until I've reached a significant buy-in level and feel there is not much more for me to learn about SNGs (which will probably never happen).

I think you are right to be concerned about your ROI dropping by adding tables. But, you will not see a significant change between 1 and 2 tables. For some people, 2 tables might actually help their game compared to 1, as they are less likely to get bored and may practice better starting hand selection.

I remember when I started to 2-table. When I got on the bubble, it seemed hectic but nothing overly difficult to handle. The more you study and the more you play, the easier decisions get and the easier playing more tables becomes.

As for reads, the more you play the better you'll get at picking up reads on more tables. Also, you'll learn ways to develop reads without seeing the player play a hand. I like to use their stack sizes early. While, not 100% accurate, it is often enough to make decisions. Ex., a guy that has lost half is stack early raises, you can give this guy a lot less credit for a hand than someone that still has his starting stack. Same for someone with a big stack early. Little things like this help. I don't use PokerHUD or whatever it is called because I'm on dial up and my connection can't handle it, so I need to rely on my own observations. It seems to be working well for me.