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Old 04-04-2006, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Calling allins with low PP ITM

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I just realised that the BB in the hand should of course have some impact on the calculations. He would probably be extremely tight since he is now almost guaranteed 2nd.

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i think you're asking what big blind is calling with here?

Lets just say if hes smart enough to have survived to age 18 to play legally on party poker, hes folding all but aa/kk/qq here.
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:37 PM
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people calling me in this spot has to be my biggest pet peeve.

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Is making money a pet peeve of yours as well?
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:39 PM
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how does someone calling when they have the advantage make me money?
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:47 PM
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True, the person who is receiving the benefit is the person not involved with the hand. It's an annoying fact that in SNGs other peoples bad decisions can hurt both of you.
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: Calling allins with low PP ITM

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It's an annoying fact that in SNGs other peoples bad decisions can hurt both of you.

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ya, this is definitly my biggest source of tilt. beats don't bother me anymore, but when I get bubbled because the big stack played every hand wrong, I get incredibly annoyed.
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Calling allins with low PP ITM

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It's an annoying fact that in SNGs other peoples bad decisions can hurt both of you.

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ya, this is definitly my biggest source of tilt. beats don't bother me anymore, but when I get bubbled because the big stack played every hand wrong, I get incredibly annoyed.

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then play cash games.

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Old 04-04-2006, 02:01 PM
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how does someone calling when they have the advantage make me money?

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Have you been paying attention? He doesn't have the advantage. With your range that you will make these moves with, you have the advantage. Just because he had the edge this time doesn't make it a good call, and hence, you should welcome it as opposed to making it your "pet peeve". Come on... this is Poker 101.
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Old 04-04-2006, 02:07 PM
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This example isn't perfect because I'm not really pushing in this spot with a big range, but in similar spots where both stacks are relatively healthy, although not as healthy as here, hes making a marginal call where he doesn't have to where I have no advantage = variance = annoying.
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Old 04-04-2006, 02:15 PM
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I'd trade variance for higher EV any day. But if not, then I can see your point.
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Old 04-04-2006, 03:14 PM
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You're reading but you aren't really understanding. 44 is a favorite over AliasMrJones's given range where the call is neutral. cEV+ doesn't mean $EV+. This is SNG 101. Villian hates getting called there, the player that wins when OP calls is the guy who isn't involved in the hand.
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