1/2 QQ folding flop when bet into by a too tight TAG

pete3145 · #1 04-01-2006, 05:53 AM

UTG is 14-13-6 after 100 hands
Seen him so far show down solid hands.

BB is 67-7-0.8 after 80 hands
BB wont let go if he decides to see a flop most of the time.

My biggest leak is that I don't call down enough. Think this is one of my typical situations when I just put UTG on a Ace and no other hand and fold. Think he might have gone for a check raise with a Ace. Then again he might want me to raise to drive out the BB if he has an Ace.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

Scotch78 · #2 04-01-2006, 05:56 AM

The pot's big enough that I probably raise (I never just call here). My turn and river play would vary a lot with the board though.

Scott

PS Keep in mind, a raise is worthwhile if you're good 20% of the time. Also, you have two backdoor draws when you are chasing.

Carmine · #3 04-01-2006, 06:54 AM

Sometimes I like to make a 2BB investment not just for this session but future ones. With position here you can often see the river for 2BB if you raise the flop, check turn and call river(assuming he is betting anything). This is not just because I want to see a showdown because this guy is tight and that Ace hurts. However as you said why not C/R the flop or the turn for villian. His play is suspicious(granted that could be the purpose of the play)but I don't know how much third level thinking youi will run into at 1/2 or maybe he is just such a straightforward player holding AK and says TPTK, I bet, mentalitiy.

Another thing to note here is the flush draw. If villian is planning on calling your flop lead with say KQ [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] he might just try a donk lead to see what happens and if raised it's not so bad for him with 9 outs and possibly BB padding the pot. Even If lose the hand at showdown I'm really able to get into this guys head and play so much better against him.

ArturiusX · #4 04-01-2006, 06:58 AM

Good, he's not betting JJ here.

mtdoak · #5 04-02-2006, 02:41 AM

Hmm. You have POSITION. Does he have an ace. Maybe. My plan: Call the flop, raise any nice brick, and make that the last bet i put in the pot. You may be able to push him off a weak ace. Thats a crazy high agression rate, my guess is that it comes from "expert laydowns" than "crazy reraising"

Cards I don't like on the turn: KJT, non spade. And of these cards, I'm hitting the muck. Another ace is an interesting debacle because it makes him less likley to have one.