Poker bots and HU Limit

[blackize]

When I played on Prima this time last year you could call support staff to actually come chat at your table. Why not try doing this when playing with a suspected bot? If you don't want to tip of the bot operator sit down at another table, call over a member of support and when they ask what the problem is tell them to check out your heads up table.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

Bot technology has come far, but security technology has come much further and will probably lead forever. Most of the "there is no way to detect if the bot does this and this"-statements are BS, if the sites do the right things they will catch 99,9% of them for decades to come.

However, we can't expect the sites' current software to be 100% safe. Many flaws are almost impossible to discover by the programmers themselves (as it may be something they forgot to think about), so the best you can do is to report to the sites anything suspicious you find, so that if in fact your suspicion is correct, you make them aware that their currently used technology may not be sufficient. Improvements may take time to implement, so the earlier they are made aware of a flaw, the better.

[EddieMoney22]

what about people who turn off chat? i do this once in a while. Also. I don't mind Bots I don't think they will ever be good enough to win in the long run and after watching someone make the same play over and over it gets easy to read IMO.

[Central Limit]

Does this bot (perrojo, or whatever it's called) quit when it's losing? How big a loss can it withstand? Anyone seen it take a big loss?

Also, does it refuse to play players that beat it?

[Glenn]

No. I am way up against perrojo, if i remember right (there are like 5), and he didnt quit. When they bust, they just sit out for a while, then eventually reload (someone notices, walks over, etc).

[Glenn]

This doesnt help too much because it just makes it so the bots have to be monitored when playing. You could still have 10 different bots on 10 sites, you just need someone to kind of half pay attention to the chats while watching tv.

[Glenn]

They manually chat at the end and sit out the bot by hand. It is amazing they were too dumb to add one line of code with a random delay, but they were, apparently.

[Glenn]

Like I said to the other guy, this obvious solution is very ineffective because all you need is someone loosely monitoring the games while the bot plays. This person doesnt even have to know how to play poker, so someone could have 10 friends run 8 bots for 5 hrs/day, etc.

[Glenn]

"Also. I don't mind Bots I don't think they will ever be good enough to win in the long run and after watching someone make the same play over and over it gets easy to read IMO. "

What makes you think a bot makes the same plays over and over? Also, AI can learn.

[GrannyMae]

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Seriously, even 2 or 3 employees who kind of know what they're doing could put forth minimal effort just checking the tables (and perhaps chatting with suspicious individuals) could actually accomplish something.

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i don't think the sites want to monitor then close a bunch of HU bots, because it would have to admit there is a bot problem. also, HU rake from bots playing each other 24/7 is probably what CEO's have sticky wet dreams about.

however, if the bots become proficient in multi-player games, then the hunt must begin.