Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB

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this spot is pretty good for squeezing light but i wouldnt automatically. if sb is a good player (im guessing hes not since the coldcall from the sb is usually pretty bad) i think hes calling us about 90% of the time since he will realize its a good spot for a squeeze and any hands he coldcalled with will have good enough equity vs our wide range. id tend to squeeze here a lot more often vs bad players.

[Albireo]

Isn't small blind aware of your agro tendencies and calling with AA here?

I fold this with two interested parties.

[BarryLyndon]

Any reads on SB? Isn't that the most important part of this problem?

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Any reads on SB? Isn't that the most important part of this problem?

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SB is unknown and somewhat LAG with big stack. My image is not aggro. I had limped 33 into SB'd BB and SB bet into me on flop and took pot.

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Any reads on SB? Isn't that the most important part of this problem?

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I am not worried about SB at all. He has a big stack and the raise wasn't too big, so I'm pretty sure a shove will get him out.

The Button is concerning and reads on him are important IMO.

How often is the button raising when it's folded around? How active on the CO? If the button has been raising from LP, how much?

If the button has been quite from LP I insta-fold.
If the button has been making a standard 3x+bb raise from LP, I insta fold.

IMO, lots of conditions have to be close to perfect to risk tournment life on a shove here.

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IMO, lots of conditions have to be close to perfect to risk tournment life on a shove here.

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IMO, anyone who uses the phrase "risking your tournament life" should not be allowed to post in this forum.

As far as the rest of your post... if button has been tight from LP you instafold... but if button has been making a standard raise frequently, you instafold as well? WTF? Where is the logic behind your thought process? You seem to be okay at assessing that, yes, the particular players on button and SB matter a lot, but you don't seem to know how to use that information to reach a conclusion about how to play the hand.

[DJ Sensei]

how often will SB smoothcall a monster here, knowing that stacks are great for you to make a move and hoping you do it? Seems like a pretty good move for him. Even if you dont squeeze he stands a decent chance of getting his stack in ahead against the button.

[Albireo]

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how often will SB smoothcall a monster here, knowing that stacks are great for you to make a move and hoping you do it? Seems like a pretty good move for him. Even if you dont squeeze he stands a decent chance of getting his stack in ahead against the button.

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The Pre-Squeeze ... or the Betgo

"I betgoed this lag monkey, who thought he was squeezing me, with my AA last night ... was sweet"

[THEOSU]

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how often will SB smoothcall a monster here, knowing that stacks are great for you to make a move and hoping you do it? Seems like a pretty good move for him. Even if you dont squeeze he stands a decent chance of getting his stack in ahead against the button.

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DJ,

first order of business is that the SB has to be either a good, thinking player or a bad, unthinking player. if he's some oaf in the middle of the two, he's always reraising aces.

i push this a ton, but that's because Q9s is my favorite hand and cracks aces and kings something like 40% of the time for me. which is fortunate, because i play Q9s like aces and kings.

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IMO, lots of conditions have to be close to perfect to risk tournment life on a shove here.

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IMO, anyone who uses the phrase "risking your tournament life" should not be allowed to post in this forum.

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Think of a better phrase and I'll use it. The point is that it's a very important decision for this tournament and it only takes 1 bad read. So IMO, if you're a little unsure about a shove here then it's probably better to fold... which is what I would do here.

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As far as the rest of your post... if button has been tight from LP you instafold... but if button has been making a standard raise frequently, you instafold as well? WTF?

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Whoops, I mis-read something. I thought that the Button raised a tad less than 2.5x, not 3. You're right, WTF? I obviously got posts confused.
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Where is the logic behind your thought process? You seem to be okay at assessing that, yes, the particular players on button and SB matter a lot, but you don't seem to know how to use that information to reach a conclusion about how to play the hand.

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My point was, and is, that the decision is important enough that you need enough information to shove here. (And actually, I say things like that to remind myself of this-because when I play online I often shove based on instinct and don't take the time to really think things through.)

I want to know from what position the Button has been raising 12% of his hands. If he's been raising from all over the table then I insta-fold.

If he's been raising often from LP I can put him on a wider range, say top 25% of hands, then in which case I may lean towards a shove given my tight image at the table so far.

I thought bet sizes were imporant before (becuase I thought it was a 2.5ish raise) but the button has probably been making a standard 3xbb raise every time.