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betgo 05-24-2007 04:39 AM

Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB
 
$100 MTT, 14 players left. Button is 21/12. Push, call, or fold?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t41418)
SB (t84516)
Hero (t32216)
UTG (t18116)
MP1 (t49678)
MP2 (t18208)
CO (t124620)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t6000</font>, SB calls t5000, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???

nath 05-24-2007 04:45 AM

Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB
 
I shove this with ridiculous frequency

(unless SB knows that)

KUSH 05-24-2007 08:46 AM

Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB
 
100% player dependant

schwah 05-24-2007 09:18 AM

Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB
 
this spot is pretty good for squeezing light but i wouldnt automatically. if sb is a good player (im guessing hes not since the coldcall from the sb is usually pretty bad) i think hes calling us about 90% of the time since he will realize its a good spot for a squeeze and any hands he coldcalled with will have good enough equity vs our wide range. id tend to squeeze here a lot more often vs bad players.

Albireo 05-24-2007 09:23 AM

Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB
 
Isn't small blind aware of your agro tendencies and calling with AA here?

I fold this with two interested parties.

BarryLyndon 05-24-2007 10:33 AM

Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB
 
Any reads on SB? Isn't that the most important part of this problem?

betgo 05-24-2007 10:42 AM

Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB
 
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Any reads on SB? Isn't that the most important part of this problem?

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SB is unknown and somewhat LAG with big stack. My image is not aggro. I had limped 33 into SB'd BB and SB bet into me on flop and took pot.

TheNewf 05-24-2007 12:54 PM

Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB
 
This is really read dependant. I rarely ever squeeze here though because it's so obvious and people never fold to squeezes these days. But depending on your table image and read on the button/SB I definitely pull the trigger sometimes. In particular you need some read the small blind is the type to call a raise there too often instead of reraising, otherwise I'm really worried he has a monster.

namespace 05-24-2007 01:22 PM

Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB
 
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Any reads on SB? Isn't that the most important part of this problem?

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I am not worried about SB at all. He has a big stack and the raise wasn't too big, so I'm pretty sure a shove will get him out.

The Button is concerning and reads on him are important IMO.

How often is the button raising when it's folded around? How active on the CO? If the button has been raising from LP, how much?

If the button has been quite from LP I insta-fold.
If the button has been making a standard 3x+bb raise from LP, I insta fold.

IMO, lots of conditions have to be close to perfect to risk tournment life on a shove here.

F0LD--IT 05-24-2007 01:23 PM

Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB
 
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Isn't small blind aware of your agro tendencies and calling with AA here?

I fold this with two interested parties.

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looks good to shove there most of the time but if the SB is a thinker then he might be trying to induce the squeeze. Whats your thoughts on the small blinds level of play?


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