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Old 05-23-2007, 03:09 AM
mrcoughman mrcoughman is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...

If they are super aggro as you say than this should be a push more often than not.
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:31 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...

Oh god, I pump my fists and push.
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...

its 140bb so i dont think a push is too great
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:38 AM
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its 140bb so i dont think a push is too great

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Fair enough. I don't fold, though.
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Old 05-23-2007, 06:01 AM
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Oh god, I pump my fists and push.

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lol, this forum has gone all to hell. (talking to you, not about you)
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Old 05-23-2007, 06:07 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...

pretty easy muck unless you 3-bet him an absolute tonne.
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Old 05-23-2007, 06:52 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...

With these specific stacks sizes I will often smoothcall pre, precisely because this happens with some frequency and I really don't think this is an obvious muck or shove, but in fact very very close.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:31 AM
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pretty easy muck unless you 3-bet him an absolute tonne.

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:43 AM
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pretty easy muck unless you 3-bet him an absolute tonne.

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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alright, so you think it's a shove?

Seems like when you re-raise with the best hand the first time, you win like 100 when you have the best hand but are committed to losing 1400 with the worst hand.

If you call here, and the flop is low, and he shoves (1k into 820) do you call? If you do seems like a tonne of reverse implied odds to me.

If the flop is ace high or king high and he shoves, do you call?

What do you think his range is.

If you can do some pretty serious EV calcs to show that I am wrong, you can continue to say "looooooooooooool".

If you just want to be a [censored] dick about it and not give anything to the community then that's fine.

I am pretty happy folding here unless as I said you have been 3-betting him a lot and he is not a player that will only play back with good hands.

He is a lag, you don't know his UTG range, it might be pretty tight. Do you know the table conditions? Is the table full of nits or strong players? If it is his range will be considerably smaller.

I wrote exactly what I thought was correct but you respond with "LoooooooooooooooooL". I am willing to guess that you are probably not very good at poker, as you can't really give me a serious argument back.

If you are a person that just thinks, OMG HIS STATS SAY HE IS LOOSE I AM GOING IN FOR 150BBs here then I am pretty sure you are not playing very well. There are so many different factors that make this decision pivotal and if you want to talk about them go ahead, otherwise go back online and just get all your money in with a mediocre hand in a huge reverse implied situation without really understanding what is going on at all.
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:51 PM
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pretty easy muck unless you 3-bet him an absolute tonne.

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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alright, so you think it's a shove?

Seems like when you re-raise with the best hand the first time, you win like 100 when you have the best hand but are committed to losing 1400 with the worst hand.

If you call here, and the flop is low, and he shoves (1k into 820) do you call? If you do seems like a tonne of reverse implied odds to me.

If the flop is ace high or king high and he shoves, do you call?

What do you think his range is.

If you can do some pretty serious EV calcs to show that I am wrong, you can continue to say "looooooooooooool".

If you just want to be a [censored] dick about it and not give anything to the community then that's fine.

I am pretty happy folding here unless as I said you have been 3-betting him a lot and he is not a player that will only play back with good hands.

He is a lag, you don't know his UTG range, it might be pretty tight. Do you know the table conditions? Is the table full of nits or strong players? If it is his range will be considerably smaller.

I wrote exactly what I thought was correct but you respond with "LoooooooooooooooooL". I am willing to guess that you are probably not very good at poker, as you can't really give me a serious argument back.

If you are a person that just thinks, OMG HIS STATS SAY HE IS LOOSE I AM GOING IN FOR 150BBs here then I am pretty sure you are not playing very well. There are so many different factors that make this decision pivotal and if you want to talk about them go ahead, otherwise go back online and just get all your money in with a mediocre hand in a huge reverse implied situation without really understanding what is going on at all.

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Awesome.
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