5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...
 

I make a 3 bet with a QQ or JJ and get 4-bet. Sometimes its an auto-muck because they are nitty, but lots of the super aggro regs do this to me, especially when im 3 betting a lot due to run of good spots. What are you're guys requirments for pushing this back in his face? I know this has 100% to do with feel, just wondering cause I barley ever do, and usually im wrong [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

This is just one of the spots and it seems like an OK fold b/c he is UTG, but hes pretty laggy nontheless.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $717.00
BB: $1,057.00
UTG: $4,096.00
MP: $985.00
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $1,401.00</font>
BTN: $1,310.00

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $35.00</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $125.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $390.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $265.00 returned to UTG

Pot Size: $265.00

Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...
 

Depends how frequent you 3bet them, and what kind of a player you are - but for most frequent 3betters this is a standard push vs any non supernit.

Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...
 

i'm pretty sure if you're folding here then villain can show a big profit by 4betting every time he would otherwise fold. it does make it closer to being a fold b/c you have 140 bb's and villain is utg, but i'm still getting ai against a laggy villain. i'd fold JJ though.

Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...
 

If they are super aggro as you say than this should be a push more often than not.

Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...
 

Oh god, I pump my fists and push.

Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...
 

its 140bb so i dont think a push is too great

Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...
 

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its 140bb so i dont think a push is too great

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Fair enough. I don't fold, though.

Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...
 

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Oh god, I pump my fists and push.

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lol, this forum has gone all to hell. (talking to you, not about you)

Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...
 

pretty easy muck unless you 3-bet him an absolute tonne.

Re: 5/10 - This happens at least 3x a session...
 

With these specific stacks sizes I will often smoothcall pre, precisely because this happens with some frequency and I really don't think this is an obvious muck or shove, but in fact very very close.