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Old 03-23-2007, 07:04 AM
holsson holsson is offline
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Default $11 JJ, 2 times

Both JJ Hands were in the early blind levels (-> no reads). I usually raise this hand first in or limp/call for set value if I get the odds. On both hands I have an Overpair after the flop, what's the best play here?


PartyPoker $11 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t40 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2)
UTG+1 (t2)
MP1 (t2)
MP2 (t2)
MP3 (t1)
CO+1 (t1)
CO (t1)
Button (t1)
SB (t1)
Hero (t2)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t120</font>, Button calls t120, SB calls t100, Hero calls t80

Flop: (t480) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t240</font>




PartyPoker $11 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t40 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2)
UTG+1 (t2)
Hero (t2)
MP2 (t2)
MP3 (t2)
CO+1 (t2)
CO (t2)
Button (t1)
SB (t1)
BB (t2)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t80</font>, Hero calls t80, MP3 calls t80, BB calls t40

Flop: (t340) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10 players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets t40</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t200</font>, UTG+1 calls t160

Turn: (t740) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10 players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 is all-in t1780</font>
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Old 03-23-2007, 07:42 AM
paddytokey paddytokey is offline
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Default Re: $11 JJ, 2 times

1) fold the flop.

2) raise a little more on the flop, fold the river.
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Old 03-23-2007, 07:46 AM
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Default Re: $11 JJ, 2 times

1) fold flop

2)raise PF and raise more flop
as played looks like villian hitted straight (78)
he mini raised PF looks like either SC or overpair IMO
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Old 03-23-2007, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: $11 JJ, 2 times

Why are we folding the flop here ? because of the 2 vilains behind? Can't raise that?
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Old 03-23-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: $11 JJ, 2 times

1) I think they fold because they are wimps [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Obviously they should SHOVE!

2) Raise more to push turn
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Old 03-23-2007, 12:43 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: $11 JJ, 2 times

I am probably getting all of my chips in the middle for both hands post flop.
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Old 03-23-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: $11 JJ, 2 times

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I am probably getting all of my chips in the middle for both hands post flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

ditto unless notes/pahud stats make me fold
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Old 03-23-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: $11 JJ, 2 times

[ QUOTE ]
1) I think they fold because they are wimps [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Obviously they should SHOVE!

2) Raise more to push turn

[/ QUOTE ]

hehehe humm I thought I had edited this post...oh well! It kinda struck me afterwards! hehehe
stupid me
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Old 03-23-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: $11 JJ, 2 times

1) pretty borderline i would call to see if utg+1 reraises..idunno but that seems bad. maybe a min raise?? folding is definitely alright too without proper reads.

2) instacall
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Old 03-23-2007, 03:13 PM
Maksymilian Maksymilian is offline
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Default Re: $11 JJ, 2 times

reraise both hands preflop instead of smooth calling.
damn, i miss party
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