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holsson 03-23-2007 07:04 AM

$11 JJ, 2 times
 
Both JJ Hands were in the early blind levels (-> no reads). I usually raise this hand first in or limp/call for set value if I get the odds. On both hands I have an Overpair after the flop, what's the best play here?


PartyPoker $11 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t40 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2)
UTG+1 (t2)
MP1 (t2)
MP2 (t2)
MP3 (t1)
CO+1 (t1)
CO (t1)
Button (t1)
SB (t1)
Hero (t2)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t120</font>, Button calls t120, SB calls t100, Hero calls t80

Flop: (t480) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t240</font>




PartyPoker $11 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t40 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2)
UTG+1 (t2)
Hero (t2)
MP2 (t2)
MP3 (t2)
CO+1 (t2)
CO (t2)
Button (t1)
SB (t1)
BB (t2)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t80</font>, Hero calls t80, MP3 calls t80, BB calls t40

Flop: (t340) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10 players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets t40</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t200</font>, UTG+1 calls t160

Turn: (t740) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10 players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 is all-in t1780</font>

paddytokey 03-23-2007 07:42 AM

Re: $11 JJ, 2 times
 
1) fold the flop.

2) raise a little more on the flop, fold the river.

TheFoxNL 03-23-2007 07:46 AM

Re: $11 JJ, 2 times
 
1) fold flop

2)raise PF and raise more flop
as played looks like villian hitted straight (78)
he mini raised PF looks like either SC or overpair IMO

reset12 03-23-2007 12:10 PM

Re: $11 JJ, 2 times
 
Why are we folding the flop here ? because of the 2 vilains behind? Can't raise that?

mmorpg 03-23-2007 12:22 PM

Re: $11 JJ, 2 times
 
1) I think they fold because they are wimps [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Obviously they should SHOVE!

2) Raise more to push turn

Dr_Jeckyl_00 03-23-2007 12:43 PM

Re: $11 JJ, 2 times
 
I am probably getting all of my chips in the middle for both hands post flop.

pifhluk 03-23-2007 12:47 PM

Re: $11 JJ, 2 times
 
[ QUOTE ]
I am probably getting all of my chips in the middle for both hands post flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

ditto unless notes/pahud stats make me fold

reset12 03-23-2007 01:05 PM

Re: $11 JJ, 2 times
 
[ QUOTE ]
1) I think they fold because they are wimps [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Obviously they should SHOVE!

2) Raise more to push turn

[/ QUOTE ]

hehehe humm I thought I had edited this post...oh well! It kinda struck me afterwards! hehehe
stupid me

malnek 03-23-2007 02:58 PM

Re: $11 JJ, 2 times
 
1) pretty borderline i would call to see if utg+1 reraises..idunno but that seems bad. maybe a min raise?? folding is definitely alright too without proper reads.

2) instacall

Maksymilian 03-23-2007 03:13 PM

Re: $11 JJ, 2 times
 
reraise both hands preflop instead of smooth calling.
damn, i miss party


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