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Old 03-14-2007, 09:27 PM
Spartak Spartak is offline
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Default QQ preflop

SB is a 45/16 donkey
He lost a big pot 5 minutes ago against someone else and has been saying a lot of crap in chat since then so he might be tilting.

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UTG ($38)
MP ($168.75)
CO ($267.15)
Hero ($453.80)
SB ($254.39)
BB ($52.34)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $17</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $16, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, SB calls $253.39 (All-In), MP folds, Hero ?
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:31 PM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: QQ preflop

Cawl or fold. Probably a fold if you don't have a crazy image. Honestly you would know best here because you had seen how he's been playing. If you like variance call.
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:35 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Don't 4bet if your not calling a shove.
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: QQ preflop

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Don't 4bet if your not calling a shove.

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Even with the 3rd player in there preflop and the initial 3 bet being a minraise?
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: QQ preflop

I prob call here after I 4bet anyways, but vs 45/16 i am calling for sure. He could think his AQ is a monster.
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:49 PM
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I fold. min 3-bet followed by shove = AA/KK from a bad player unless they are a total maniac
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:53 PM
RiverHebrew2 RiverHebrew2 is offline
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If he's a huge tilting spewmonky donkey, i probably won't fold this
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:54 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Don't 4bet if your not calling a shove.

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Even with the 3rd player in there preflop and the initial 3 bet being a minraise?

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Yes because he will be shoving or folding a lot after our 4bet. Which kinda turns QQ into air if we fold to a shove.
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:04 PM
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I think 4 bet is really marginal, even against a 45/16... How many hands is this over, and have you ever seen him 4 bet before? If you 4 bet, you gotta call tho.

Am I the only one who likes calling the minraise in position?
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