QQ preflop
 

SB is a 45/16 donkey
He lost a big pot 5 minutes ago against someone else and has been saying a lot of crap in chat since then so he might be tilting.

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UTG ($38)
MP ($168.75)
CO ($267.15)
Hero ($453.80)
SB ($254.39)
BB ($52.34)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $17</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $16, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, SB calls $253.39 (All-In), MP folds, Hero ?

Re: QQ preflop
 

Cawl or fold. Probably a fold if you don't have a crazy image. Honestly you would know best here because you had seen how he's been playing. If you like variance call.

Re: QQ preflop
 

Don't 4bet if your not calling a shove.

Re: QQ preflop
 

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Don't 4bet if your not calling a shove.

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Even with the 3rd player in there preflop and the initial 3 bet being a minraise?

Re: QQ preflop
 

I prob call here after I 4bet anyways, but vs 45/16 i am calling for sure. He could think his AQ is a monster.

Re: QQ preflop
 

I fold. min 3-bet followed by shove = AA/KK from a bad player unless they are a total maniac

Re: QQ preflop
 

If he's a huge tilting spewmonky donkey, i probably won't fold this

Re: QQ preflop
 

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Don't 4bet if your not calling a shove.

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Even with the 3rd player in there preflop and the initial 3 bet being a minraise?

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Yes because he will be shoving or folding a lot after our 4bet. Which kinda turns QQ into air if we fold to a shove.

Re: QQ preflop
 

I think 4 bet is really marginal, even against a 45/16... How many hands is this over, and have you ever seen him 4 bet before? If you 4 bet, you gotta call tho.

Am I the only one who likes calling the minraise in position?