AA Standard fold?

[McDirk]

Hmm...tough one. I think much of the time you see Ax of hearts here, especially at this level. Any other reads on villain?

[NL__Fool]

No reads other then he was 20/4 and that didnt mean much because it was over 25 hands.

Do you really think Ax hearts Check raises the flop then 4 bets all in here?

[GiantBuddha]

A3hearts does this sometimes, as does JThearts. I think you're against a set or top two pretty often though, too.

[GiantBuddha]

You're getting almost 3:1 here, but at best you're a 2:1 favorite (unless he's a moron). If he's got a set you're like 9:1 against. So how often does he have to have the draw for you to have a call here? Maybe 3/8ths of the time. Is he semibluffing that often? Probably not.

[Etric]

Standard, but annoying.

JT hearts is a favorite over this hand anyway.

20/4 players don't do this with Ax hearts unless it is A3 hearts and even then they don't call A3 hearts vs a pfr.

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you are better off just calling his raise on the flop

[NL__Fool]

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you are better off just calling his raise on the flop

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why?

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you are better off just calling his raise on the flop

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why?

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because your equity skyrockets vs draws when the turn bricks

[GiantBuddha]

Against JT hearts this is a call even if you're a slight dog. I've been up against QJ in this spot before, but the guy was more like 60/20.

[Etric]

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Against JT hearts this is a call even if you're a slight dog. I've been up against QJ in this spot before, but the guy was more like 60/20.

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True, if you knew he had JT hearts, this would be a call.

Against a lag, I'd instacall this.

FWIW, I'd play JT hearts like this and also a set like this.