Is it okay to eat animals???

[Skidoo]

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Please don't let religious propaganda trick you into thinking that morality somehow comes from religion, because it doesn't.

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If morality didn't come from God (note I don't say "religion"), then by what authority would it be imposed or enforced?

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I might suggest using the "Mirror Test" recently in the news to decide what you should or shouldn't eat.

If an animal can recognise itself in a mirror (and very few do) then it can be described as self aware and maybe shouldn't be eaten.

So that cuts out a few types of monkey, elephants, dolphins and humans from a meat eaters diet! Nearly everything else is fair game!

(Note: Human children tend to fail this test until they are at least 1.5 to 2 years old)

Link to Mirror Test Wiki page

And I should add that I am in fact a vegitarian, but not the evangelical type! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[arahant]

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I might suggest using the "Mirror Test" recently in the news to decide what you should or shouldn't eat.

If an animal can recognise itself in a mirror (and very few do) then it can be described as self aware and maybe shouldn't be eaten.

So that cuts out a few types of monkey, elephants, dolphins and humans from a meat eaters diet! Nearly everything else is fair game!

(Note: Human children tend to fail this test until they are at least 1.5 to 2 years old)

Link to Mirror Test Wiki page

And I should add that I am in fact a vegitarian, but not the evangelical type! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Finally some moral justification for my infant consumption!

[arahant]

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I think it is easiest to wash away the dilemma if you simply realize that the notion of morality is as silly as religon.


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As an atheist, I completely disagree. Religion is at best totally worthless. But morality is a very important and serious topic.

Please don't let religious propaganda trick you into thinking that morality somehow comes from religion, because it doesn't.


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Heh...as an atheist, I'm not at all certain that religion is worthless, but i'm very sure that the concept of 'morality' is pretty much hogwash.

But this is sure to devolve into semantics if we continue the discussion. Plus, it will get skidoo all excited.

[Skidoo]

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Heh...as an atheist, I'm not at all certain that religion is worthless, but i'm very sure that the concept of 'morality' is pretty much hogwash.

But this is sure to devolve into semantics if we continue the discussion. Plus, it will get skidoo all excited.

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Another one of your "meatless" commentaries.

[arahant]

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Heh...as an atheist, I'm not at all certain that religion is worthless, but i'm very sure that the concept of 'morality' is pretty much hogwash.

But this is sure to devolve into semantics if we continue the discussion. Plus, it will get skidoo all excited.

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Another one of your "meatless" commentaries.

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Hey, that reply was pretty good! Extra points for irony, too!
Good job, man!

[Skidoo]

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Heh...as an atheist, I'm not at all certain that religion is worthless, but i'm very sure that the concept of 'morality' is pretty much hogwash.

But this is sure to devolve into semantics if we continue the discussion. Plus, it will get skidoo all excited.

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Another one of your "meatless" commentaries.

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Hey, that reply was pretty good! Extra points for irony, too!
Good job, man!

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I wish to thank my agent and Hamburger Helper.

[Mark H]

If by m moral you mean that it reduces the amount of suffering in the world I think it is.
What would happen if every one stopped eating meat.
1 Farmer kills all his livestock. {this to me is the most humane}
2 Fix all the animals so they cant have offspring. Then what let them go? There wouldnt be enough crops left to harvest let alone feed the world. The animals are going to die an unplesant death at some point.Old age isn't pleasant in nature. The last year will most likly be a slow torture .
Sickness in nature often leads to a slow painfull death.
Accidents with cars would be bad for both humans and animals.Many animals when hit by a car do not die imediatly
but can suffer for long periods before tyey die.
3 Not keeping wild animal populations in check is the same as # 2

Mark

[BobOjedaFan]

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well, making ipods is very ineffective. it is a waste of resources. if everybody stopped buying ipods we could probably help more starving people

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Are ipods morally reprehensible? This is a serious question.

~MagicMan

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joke post, no?

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I'm intentionally being sensational (for humour and shock value), but my point is very serious. The fact that a process is inefficient or wastes resources doesn't seem sufficient to deem it immoral. Otherwise we'd have to condemn a lot of other stuff as well.

~MagicMan

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I once knew someone like this. He's gotten so nutty now he won't spend any money on personal satisfaction. You can't go to a baseball game with him. Unless you pay for him, he'll accept THAT. lol, he thinks it's selfless.

[Borodog]

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question: why do people post
like this? does
anyone else
find it difficult to
read?

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I like to think that
they are making their point in
intarweb haiku.